{"id":3829,"date":"2017-08-02T13:58:00","date_gmt":"2017-08-02T11:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/divadelni-duo-skutr\/"},"modified":"2023-01-06T13:50:29","modified_gmt":"2023-01-06T12:50:29","slug":"divadelni-duo-skutr-1860","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/divadelni-duo-skutr-1860\/","title":{"rendered":"V um\u011bn\u00ed nejde o p\u0159ipravenost, ale o emocion\u00e1ln\u00ed z\u00e1sah"},"content":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><i><b>Kdo je SKUTR pro ty,  kte\u0159\u00ed neznaj\u00ed?<\/b><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: SKUTR jsme my dva! Re\u017eijn\u00ed tandem Kuku\u010dka Trpi\u0161ovsk\u00fd, tato p\u0159ezd\u00edvka vznikla na \u0161kole ve druh\u00e1ku,  kdy n\u00e1m ji dal spolu\u017e\u00e1k z herectv\u00ed. Pak n\u00e1m to u\u017e z\u016fstalo, zdravili n\u00e1s tak  spolu\u017e\u00e1ci i pedagogov\u00e9, vzniklo logo \u2013 n\u00e1\u0161 nosn\u00fd brand.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>M\u00e1te za sebou ji\u017e sedmn\u00e1ct let spolupr\u00e1ce, co v\u00e1s druh\u00e1 strana nau\u010dila?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Martin: J\u00e1 to m\u00e1m jednoduch\u00fd, j\u00e1 p\u0159i\u0161el ze Slovenska  s\u00a0t\u00edm, \u017ee re\u017eis\u00e9r je ten, kter\u00fd bouchne do stolu, po\u0159\u00e1dn\u011b za\u0159ve a dr\u017e\u00ed to  cel\u00e9 pod kontrolou, a dlouho jsem nech\u00e1pal, jak Luk\u00e1\u0161 jako introvert m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt  re\u017eis\u00e9rem \u2013 n\u011bkdo, kdo ne\u0159ve? A najednou jsem pochopil, \u017ee v\u00a0\u010cech\u00e1ch k\u0159ik  na divadle nepom\u00e1h\u00e1, tady se herci uzav\u0159ou, vznikne ze\u010f. Tady se mus\u00ed jednat  mnohem psychologi\u010dt\u011bji. <\/p>\n<p><b><i>A co ty Luk\u00e1\u0161i?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: No co jsem se nau\u010dil j\u00e1??<\/p>\n<p>Martin: No ty nic\u2026 teda lidovky!<\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: J\u00e1 jsem se nau\u010dil\u2026 tedy sp\u00ed\u0161 se to st\u00e1le u\u010d\u00edm, p\u0159ij\u00edt  na zkou\u0161ku nep\u0159ipraven. Mn\u011b to dalo opravdu moc pr\u00e1ce se nep\u0159ipravovat, ale  zjistil jsem, \u017ee kdy\u017e se \u010dlov\u011bk p\u0159iprav\u00ed, p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed o ty nejzaj\u00edmav\u011bj\u0161\u00ed momenty,  kter\u00e9 se d\u011bj\u00ed na zkou\u0161ce. T\u00edm, \u017ee tla\u010d\u00ed strukturu, se m\u016f\u017ee opravdu o n\u011bco  velk\u00e9ho p\u0159ipravit. P\u0159edem nev\u00edme, jak\u00fdm sm\u011brem se bude divadlo vyv\u00edjet, a to m\u011b  u\u010d\u00ed velk\u00e9 trp\u011blivosti.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>V\u00a0\u010dem spat\u0159ujete  v\u00fdhodu b\u00fdt ve dvou a je to v\u00a0n\u011b\u010dem naopak n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: J\u00e1 teda nev\u00edm o nev\u00fdhod\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>Martin: Je jedna. Mus\u00edme se d\u011blit o prachy. Nikdo n\u00e1s  nezaplat\u00ed dva, jako dva re\u017eis\u00e9ry, a to n\u00e1s pak taky tla\u010d\u00ed, abychom t\u011bch projekt\u016f  d\u011blali v\u00edc. A v\u00fdhoda je jednoduch\u00e1, ka\u017ed\u00fd z\u00a0n\u00e1s zvl\u00e1d\u00e1 ur\u010dit\u00e9 v\u011bci l\u00e9pe  nebo precizn\u011bji, ten druh\u00fd by se do t\u011bch v\u011bc\u00ed nutil, a pak by nevznikaly  p\u0159irozen\u011b. Obzvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 kdy\u017e d\u011bl\u00e1me divadlo, kter\u00e9 v\u00a0sob\u011b m\u00e1 pohyb, slovo,  hudbu. Ka\u017ed\u00fd nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt dobr\u00fd ve v\u0161em. <\/p>\n<p><b><i>Potkala v\u00e1s n\u011bkdy  krize?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: Osobn\u00ed krizi nem\u00e1me, jeliko\u017e netr\u00e1v\u00edme po pr\u00e1ci  spole\u010dn\u00fd \u010das. Ten pracovn\u00ed je toti\u017e natolik obs\u00e1hl\u00fd\u2026 jedin\u011b vlastn\u011b, kdy\u017e  hostujeme v\u00a0cizin\u011b \u2013 to pak ano, to r\u00e1di spole\u010dn\u011b pozn\u00e1v\u00e1me nov\u00e1 m\u00edsta.<\/p>\n<p>Martin: Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee i v\u00a0osobn\u00edm i pracovn\u00edm \u017eivot\u011b to u  n\u00e1s funguje na velk\u00e9m respektu a ten dok\u00e1\u017ee p\u0159ekonat i prvotn\u00ed nasr\u00e1n\u00ed, kdy\u017e  t\u0159eba Luk\u00e1\u0161 v\u00ed, \u017ee jsem se po\u0159\u00e1dn\u011b nevyspal a budu cel\u00fd den \u0161t\u011bkat \u2013 a obzvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165  na n\u011bj. A tak\u00e9 je to ur\u010dit\u011b o hlubok\u00e9m p\u0159\u00e1telstv\u00ed a \u00fact\u011b. Jeden u druh\u00e9ho  vyc\u00edt\u00edme, kdy si mus\u00edme od sebe oddechnout.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>V\u00e1\u0161 posledn\u00ed po\u010din  byl <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/racek--234257\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Racek<\/a>  <i>od \u010cechova v\u00a0Divadle v\u00a0Dlouh\u00e9. Jak k\u00a0v\u00e1m p\u0159ilet\u011bl a kdy jste  poprv\u00e9 knihu \u010detli?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: S\u00a0t\u00edm n\u00e1padem jsem asi p\u0159i\u0161el j\u00e1\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Martin: Jako v\u017edy <i>(sm\u00edch)<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: \u2026 proto\u017ee jsme m\u011bli nab\u00eddku z\u00a0Divadla  v\u00a0Dlouh\u00e9, kde jsme te\u010f v\u00a0um\u011bleck\u00e9m veden\u00ed, l\u00edbilo se mi, jak  specifick\u00fd soubor divadlo m\u00e1, a najednou m\u011b napadlo, \u017ee by se mi l\u00edbilo  s\u00a0nimi ud\u011blat \u010cechova. Vid\u011bl jsem ho kdysi p\u0159ed lety, velmi kr\u00e1sn\u011b um\u011blecky  zpracovan\u00e9ho, a zapamatoval jsem si ten hlubok\u00fd dojem.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Martine a kdy jsi  tedy ty m\u011bl prvn\u00ed setk\u00e1n\u00ed s<\/i>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/racek--234257\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rackem<\/a><i>?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Martin: Ve chv\u00edli, kdy to navrhnul Luk\u00e1\u0161, proto\u017ee j\u00e1 byl  p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den, \u017ee ho nikdy d\u011blat nebudeme. Je to meka realistick\u00e9ho divadla, j\u00e1 si  v\u00e1\u017en\u011b myslel, \u017ee se n\u00e1s nikdy nedotkne, a Luk\u00e1\u0161 m\u011b vlastn\u011b p\u0159ekvapil i p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010dil.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Jak\u00e1 je odezva?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: Velmi kontroverzn\u00ed, a to jsem ne\u010dekal. Lid\u00e9 byli  velmi p\u0159ekvapeni, \u017ee se tak d\u00e1 d\u011blat divadlo, stejn\u011b jako v\u00a0Hradci na <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/pena-dni-luxor--229234\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">P\u011bn\u011b dn\u00ed<\/a><\/i>\u2026  co\u017e jsem vlastn\u011b \u010dekal, ale ze strany kritiky. Vlastn\u011b je\u0161t\u011b nevy\u0161la pozitivn\u00ed  kritika. Tro\u0161ku jsem si myslel, \u017ee u\u017e je tady prokopan\u00e1 tradice, \u017ee se \u010cechov  d\u00e1 d\u011blat r\u016fzn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem, ale na jejich reakc\u00edch jsem zjistil, \u017ee ne. Co  v\u0161echno jsme nepochopili, nebo jsme dokonce ud\u011blali za naschv\u00e1ly.<\/p>\n<p>Martin: Jsou t\u0159i typy reakc\u00ed \u2013 ti, co jsou naprosto  zamilovan\u00ed, pak jsou ti, kter\u00e9 to naprosto vyt\u00e1\u010d\u00ed a irituje, co maj\u00ed chu\u0165 se  zvednout za\u0159vat a odej\u00edt, a pak ti, co se moc t\u011b\u0161\u00ed, jsou zv\u011bdav\u00ed, ale nedostali  se dovnit\u0159, hra je k\u00a0sob\u011b nepust\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Op\u00edr\u00e1 se va\u0161e divadlo  v\u017edy o kni\u017en\u00ed p\u0159edlohu? Je lep\u0161\u00ed si knihu p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst p\u0159edem, nebo ne?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Martin: Za m\u011b jako div\u00e1ka ne. J\u00e1 knihu nebo autora beru jen  jako rozst\u0159el dan\u00e9ho t\u00e9matu, p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu.<\/p>\n<p>M\u011b osobn\u011b v\u00edc v\u017edy zaj\u00edm\u00e1 divadlo jako takov\u00e9, jak je  zpracovan\u00e9. M\u00e1m v\u0161ak zku\u0161enost z\u00a0<i><\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/pena-dni-luxor--229234\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>P\u011bny dn\u00ed<\/i> <\/a>nebo <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/racek--234257\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Racka<\/a><\/i>, \u017ee ti, kdo \u010detli p\u0159edem, tak si to u\u017eili  mnohem v\u00edc, proto\u017ee nesledovali vztahy nebo kdo je kdo, ale sn\u00e1z si u\u017e\u00edvali divadlo  samotn\u00e9. Doporu\u010dit se to, ale ned\u00e1\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: V\u00a0um\u011bn\u00ed nejde o p\u0159ipravenost, ale o emocion\u00e1ln\u00ed  z\u00e1sah \u2013 bu\u010f tam je, nebo nen\u00ed\u2026<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Jak\u00fd je v\u00e1\u0161 osobn\u00ed  vztah ke knih\u00e1m? Doporu\u010dte n\u00e1m ty sv\u00e9 obl\u00edben\u00e9\u2026<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Martin: M\u011b vlastn\u011b ovlivnil ve \u010dten\u00ed Luk\u00e1\u0161, ten mi na\u0161el  knihy, kter\u00e9 m\u011b chytly i v\u00a0dob\u011b, kdy jsem \u010detl velmi m\u00e1lo, moje \u010dten\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9  skoky jsou od Verneho k\u00a0Vianovi. <\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: J\u00e1 jsem v\u017edycky \u010detl\u2026 do p\u00e1t\u00e9 t\u0159\u00eddy komiksy, pak  Foglarovky. St\u00ednadla snad \u0161estkr\u00e1t! Pak m\u011b ovlivnilo \u010dten\u00ed na desk\u00e1ch, kter\u00e9 jsme m\u011bli doma.  Verneovky nebo Jir\u00e1skovu\u00a0<i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/lucerna--201270\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lucernu<\/a>.\u00a0<\/i>Nejv\u00edc otev\u0159en\u00fd v\u0161em \u017e\u00e1nr\u016fm jsem byl na gymplu, to jsem  p\u0159e\u010detl opravdu v\u0161echno. A \u010d\u00edm m\u00e9n\u011b jsem n\u011b\u010demu rozum\u011bl, t\u00edm v\u00edc mi to p\u0159i\u0161lo  vlastn\u011b geni\u00e1ln\u00ed J. Bulgak\u016fv  <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/mistr-a-marketka-ilustrovane-vydani--255452\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mistr a Mark\u00e9tka<\/a><\/i>  \u2013 to je ta kniha jedn\u00edm dechem\u2026 pak bych doporu\u010dil <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/bratri-karamazovi--23673\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bratry Karamazovy<\/a><\/i>, rusk\u00e1 literatura  m\u011b celkov\u011b ovlivnila. Z\u00a0\u010desk\u00fd Jaroslava Rudi\u0161e a Kunderu. Posledn\u00edm objevem velk\u00fdm je pro m\u011b Michael Cunningham a T.  S. Eliot. O knih\u00e1ch bych dok\u00e1zal mluvit hodiny (<i>sm\u00edch<\/i>).<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Na co n\u00e1s pozvete  v\u00a0letn\u00edch m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Martin: Ur\u010dit\u011b na Shakespearovsk\u00e9 hry, u\u017e jen proto, \u017ee se  budou hr\u00e1t na jin\u00e9m m\u00edst\u011b Pra\u017esk\u00e9ho hradu. Tak\u017ee i ten, kdo vid\u011bl, si m\u016f\u017ee  odn\u00e9st naprosto jin\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek. Tak\u017ee v\u00e1s zvu na <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/sen-noci-svatojanske--192083\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sen noci svatoj\u00e1nsk\u00e9<\/a><\/i> a <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/romeo-a-julie--237063\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Romea a Julii<\/a><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Luk\u00e1\u0161: J\u00e1 do Krumlova na Ot\u00e1\u010div\u00e9 hledi\u0161t\u011b, kde na v\u00e1s \u010dekaj\u00ed  <i><a href=\"http:\/\/neoluxor.cz\/beletrie\/liska-bystrouska--193255\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">P\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy Li\u0161ky Bystrou\u0161ky<\/a><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><i>Autor: Jana Br\u00e1zdilov\u00e1<\/i><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Za svoji re\u017eijn\u00ed kari\u00e9rou za sebou maj\u00ed nespo\u010det divadeln\u00edch inscenac\u00ed doma i ve sv\u011bt\u011b. Bav\u00ed je zkoumat hranice r\u016fzn\u00fdch divadeln\u00edch forem. Jsou jin\u00ed a t\u00edm bezpochyby v\u00fdjime\u010dn\u00ed. Divadeln\u00ed duo SKUTR o tom, jak\u00e9 je re\u017e\u00edrovat ve dvou, o knih\u00e1ch a dal\u0161\u00edch radostech\u2026<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":3830,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3829","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3829","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3829"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3829\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3830"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3829"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3829"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3829"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}