{"id":334464,"date":"2026-10-27T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-10-27T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/?p=334464"},"modified":"2026-10-27T13:54:33","modified_gmt":"2026-10-27T12:54:33","slug":"rozhovor-se-stepanem-javurkem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/magazin-luxor\/rozhovor-se-stepanem-javurkem\/","title":{"rendered":"P\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy minulosti: Rozhovor se \u0160t\u011bp\u00e1nem Jav\u016frkem"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Velk\u00e9 d\u011bjiny \u010dasto nejl\u00e9pe pochop\u00edme prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016f jednotliv\u00fdch lid\u00ed. \u0160t\u011bp\u00e1n Jav\u016frek ve
sv\u00e9 nov\u00e9 knize Ve st\u00ednu je\u0159abiny vypr\u00e1v\u00ed p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh mlad\u00e9 Josef\u00edny, jej\u00ed\u017e p\u0159edstavy o\u00a0oby\u010dejn\u00e9m \u017eivot\u011b
z\u00e1sadn\u011b zm\u011bn\u00ed ud\u00e1losti roku 1938 a\u00a0n\u00e1sledn\u00e1 v\u00e1lka. Co v\u0161echno dok\u00e1\u017ee zm\u011bnit doba, ve kter\u00e9
\u017eijeme? A\u00a0co v\u00a0\u010dlov\u011bku z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1, i\u00a0kdy\u017e se kolem n\u011bj m\u011bn\u00ed cel\u00fd sv\u011bt? S\u00a0autorem jsme mluvili o\u00a0v\u00e1lce,
odvaze, rodin\u011b, pam\u011bti i\u00a0o\u00a0tom, pro\u010d bychom se k\u00a0p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016fm minulosti m\u011bli st\u00e1le vracet.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Co v\u00e1s p\u0159ivedlo k\u00a0p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu Ve st\u00ednu je\u0159abiny?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u011bl jsem po trilogii Sudetsk\u00fd d\u016fm chu\u0165 zpracovat podobn\u00e9 t\u00e9ma je\u0161t\u011b z \u010desk\u00e9ho pohledu, z\u00a0pohledu lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159ed v\u00e1lkou \u017eili ve vnitrozem\u00ed a\u00a0n\u011bmecky mluv\u00edc\u00ed pohrani\u010d\u00ed pro n\u011b vlastn\u011b bylo ciz\u00ed a\u00a0nezn\u00e1mou krajinou. Do toho pak ke mn\u011b p\u0159i\u0161lo jedno vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed pam\u011btnice, kter\u00e9 mi definitivn\u011b vnuklo podobu cel\u00e9ho p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ve st\u00ednu je\u0159abiny<\/a> je p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhem mlad\u00e9 Josef\u00edny, kter\u00e1 chce \u017e\u00edt oby\u010dejn\u00fd \u017eivot, ale do jej\u00edho osudu vstoup\u00ed v\u00e1lka. Jak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je podle v\u00e1s p\u0159ipom\u00ednat si v\u00e1le\u010dn\u00e9 obdob\u00ed a\u00a0p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed ho pro\u017eili?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Co je sv\u011bt sv\u011btem, jdeme vlastn\u011b od jedn\u00e9 v\u00e1lky k\u00a0druh\u00e9. A\u00a0v\u017edycky po ka\u017ed\u00e9 velk\u00e9 v\u00e1lce si naivn\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1me, \u017ee byla posledn\u00ed, \u017ee te\u010f u\u017e bude m\u00edr. A\u00a0hned jak si \u0159ekneme, \u017ee te\u010f u\u017e bude nav\u017edy m\u00edr, tak pro jistotu zapomeneme, co vedlo k\u00a0t\u00e9 posledn\u00ed v\u00e1lce, kter\u00e1 pr\u00e1v\u011b skon\u010dila. Proto je to d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 p\u0159ipom\u00ednat, zase a\u00a0znovu. \u010clov\u011bk by \u0159ekl, \u017ee po tom v\u0161em, \u010d\u00edm si Evropa pro\u0161la v posledn\u00edm stolet\u00ed, u\u017e mus\u00ed b\u00fdt v\u0161em jasno.
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Pro\u010d jste si pro nov\u00fd rom\u00e1n vybral pr\u00e1v\u011b obdob\u00ed roku 1938 a n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00edch let?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Obdob\u00ed kolem Mnichova a\u00a0n\u00e1sledn\u00fd vznik protektor\u00e1tu, to je jedno z nejsiln\u011bj\u0161\u00edch obdob\u00ed cel\u00fdch d\u011bjin \u010desk\u00e9ho n\u00e1roda. Obrovsk\u00e1 bolest a\u00a0beznad\u011bj, absolutn\u00ed rozkr\u00fdv\u00e1n\u00ed charakter\u016f jednotliv\u00fdch lid\u00ed, podhoub\u00ed vzniku dal\u0161\u00edch velk\u00fdch ud\u00e1lost\u00ed budoucnosti. Tohle v\u0161echno m\u011b na tom obdob\u00ed fascinuje. Nejv\u00edc se m\u011b ale dot\u00fdk\u00e1 ta neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u00e1 state\u010dnost n\u011bkter\u00fdch lid\u00ed. Dod\u00e1v\u00e1 mi to v\u00edru, \u017ee i\u00a0dnes jsou mezi n\u00e1mi \u010cechy lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed by byli takov\u00e9 odvahy a state\u010dnosti schopni, kdyby \u0161lo o\u00a0v\u0161echno.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

Co v\u00e1s na t\u00e9to dob\u011b fascinuje nebo naopak d\u011bs\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fascinuj\u00ed i\u00a0d\u011bs\u00ed m\u011b v\u017edycky p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm lid\u00e9. Proto\u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b \u010dlov\u011bk vtisk\u00e1v\u00e1 krajin\u011b du\u0161i, p\u00ed\u0161e historii, jeho otisk nal\u00e9z\u00e1me ve sv\u011bt\u011b kolem n\u00e1s. Fascinuje a\u00a0d\u011bs\u00ed m\u011b tak\u00e9 to, jak se n\u011bkter\u00e9 v\u011bci opakuj\u00ed, jak nevid\u00edme zjevn\u00e9 podobnosti mezi histori\u00ed a\u00a0sou\u010dasnost\u00ed. Jeden p\u0159\u00edklad za v\u0161echny: V\u00a0roce 1938 si Hitler n\u00e1rokoval \u00fazem\u00ed \u010ceskoslovenska, ciz\u00edho st\u00e1tu, s\u00a0argumentem: Sice je to \u00fazem\u00ed ciz\u00edho st\u00e1tu, ale \u017eije tam v\u011bt\u0161ina n\u011bmecky mluv\u00edc\u00edch obyvatel, a\u00a0tak m\u00e1m na tu \u010d\u00e1st ciz\u00ed zem\u011b pr\u00e1vo. My v\u0161ichni v\u00edme, \u017ee \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 pr\u00e1vo nem\u011bl, \u017ee to byl zlo\u010dinec, kter\u00fd poru\u0161il mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed pr\u00e1vo. V\u00a0roce 2022 si Putin za\u010dal n\u00e1rokovat \u010d\u00e1st svrchovan\u00e9 zem\u011b\u00a0\u2013 Ukrajiny\u00a0\u2013 s\u00a0argumentem, \u017ee v\u00a0t\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti zem\u011b \u017eije podstatn\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st rusky mluv\u00edc\u00edho obyvatelstva a\u00a0on m\u00e1 tedy na tu \u010d\u00e1st ciz\u00ed zem\u011b pr\u00e1vo. Je to stejn\u00fd zlo\u010dinec, kter\u00fd poru\u0161uje mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed pr\u00e1vo, a\u00a0\u010d\u00e1st \u010cech\u016f to nevid\u00ed, a\u00a0je\u0161t\u011b mu fand\u00ed! To nedok\u00e1\u017eu nikdy pochopit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 bylo vc\u00edtit se do \u017eivota lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed pro\u017e\u00edvali v\u00e1lku?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9. A\u00a0nikdy to nejde zcela, kdy\u017e jste si ty konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed situace nepro\u017eil na vlastn\u00ed k\u016f\u017ei. Pom\u00e1h\u00e1 t\u0159eba vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed pam\u011btn\u00edk\u016f, sledov\u00e1n\u00ed dokument\u016f, \u010dten\u00ed dopis\u016f a\u00a0knih\u2026 \u010clov\u011bk tak\u00e9 p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00ed o\u00a0dob\u011b, ve kter\u00e9 \u017eije, a\u00a0n\u011bkter\u00e9 situace si p\u0159ipodob\u0148uje, sna\u017e\u00ed se p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let nad uva\u017eov\u00e1n\u00edm sv\u00fdch kni\u017en\u00edch postav\u2026 Je to zkr\u00e1tka slo\u017eit\u00fd proces\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Je podle v\u00e1s t\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed ps\u00e1t o\u00a0velk\u00fdch d\u011bjin\u00e1ch, nebo o\u00a0jejich dopadu na oby\u010dejn\u00e9 lidi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

J\u00e1 u\u017e jsem v\u00a0posledn\u00ed dob\u011b n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t zopakoval, \u017ee vlastn\u011b nezn\u00e1m pojem oby\u010dejn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk. V\u017edy\u0165 nikdo z\u00a0n\u00e1s nen\u00ed oby\u010dejn\u00fd! Ka\u017ed\u00fd jeden z\u00a0n\u00e1s m\u00e1 t\u0159eba unik\u00e1tn\u00ed otisk prst\u016f, kter\u00fd z\u00a0n\u011bho d\u011bl\u00e1 naprosto unik\u00e1tn\u00edho \u010dlov\u011bka. Ka\u017ed\u00fd je tady na sv\u011bt\u011b taky z\u00a0n\u011bjak\u00e9ho d\u016fvodu, m\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh, n\u011bco tu po sob\u011b zanech\u00e1v\u00e1. A\u00a0tak bych sp\u00ed\u0161e \u0159ekl, \u017ee p\u00ed\u0161i o neoby\u010dejn\u00fdch lidech, kte\u0159\u00ed t\u0159eba n\u011bkdy nejsou tolik vid\u011bt, co\u017e ale neznamen\u00e1, \u017ee by nebyli zaj\u00edmav\u00ed.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Jakou roli podle v\u00e1s v\u00a0t\u011b\u017ek\u00fdch \u010dasech hraje rodina a\u00a0domov?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Naprosto z\u00e1sadn\u00ed! A\u00a0j\u00e1 si to, stejn\u011b jako v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed, s\u00a0v\u011bkem uv\u011bdomuji \u010d\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u00edc. Lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed pro\u017eili v\u00e1lky, byli \u010dasto od sv\u00fdch bl\u00edzk\u00fdch odd\u011bleni proti sv\u00e9 v\u016fli. My se dnes \u010dasto od sv\u00fdch bl\u00edzk\u00fdch odd\u011blujeme dobrovoln\u011b, kv\u016fli nesmysl\u016fm, jako jsou pen\u00edze, ego, politick\u00e9 n\u00e1zory\u2026 M\u011bli bychom si p\u0159ipom\u00ednat, \u017ee lidi tady nejsou nav\u017edy, \u017ee \u010das s\u00a0bl\u00edzk\u00fdmi m\u00e1me omezen\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Knihu jste v\u011bnoval sv\u00e9mu \u010derstv\u011b narozen\u00e9mu synovi. Budete mu jednou vypr\u00e1v\u011bt p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy z\u00a0\u010desk\u00e9 historie, nebo si po\u010dk\u00e1te, a\u017e je objev\u00ed s\u00e1m?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee se \u017eenou na\u0161eho syna povedeme k\u00a0l\u00e1sce k\u00a0na\u0161emu regionu, ke Kru\u0161n\u00fdm hor\u00e1m, k\u00a0respektu k p\u0159\u00edrod\u011b, zkr\u00e1tka k\u00a0v\u011bcem, kter\u00e9 jsou pro n\u00e1s samotn\u00e9 d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee b\u00fdt dobr\u00fdm vzorem a\u00a0ukazovat cestu je ten nejlep\u0161\u00ed zp\u016fsob, jak vychov\u00e1vat d\u00edt\u011b. A\u00a0\u010das uk\u00e1\u017ee, jak se n\u00e1m tahle p\u0159edstava povedla a kter\u00fdm sm\u011brem se n\u00e1\u0161 syn rozhodne vydat. Bude to jeho \u017eivot a\u00a0on se mus\u00ed rozhodovat, my mu m\u016f\u017eeme b\u00fdt jen trp\u011bliv\u00fdmi a\u00a0laskav\u00fdmi pr\u016fvodci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

S\u00e1m poch\u00e1z\u00edte ze Sudet a\u00a0jejich p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy se ve va\u0161\u00ed tvorb\u011b \u010dasto vracej\u00ed. Co v\u00e1s na tomto kraji st\u00e1le tolik p\u0159itahuje?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Miluju to tady. Jsem tady prost\u011b doma, nen\u00ed k\u00a0tomu co v\u00edc \u0159\u00edct. Ned\u00e1vno jsem byl b\u011bhat a\u00a0kousek nad Perninkem jsem se v\u00a0podzimn\u00ed mlze a\u00a0de\u0161ti zastavil a\u00a0uv\u011bdomil jsem si, \u017ee jsem p\u0159esn\u011b tam, kde jsem v\u017edycky cht\u011bl b\u00fdt. Nem\u011bnil bych.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

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Co byste si p\u0159\u00e1l, aby si \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i z\u00a0knihy Ve st\u00ednu je\u0159abiny odnesli?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Takhle nikdy neuva\u017euji. Co by si odnesli\u2026 P\u0159eji si maxim\u00e1ln\u011b to, aby v\u00a0nich kniha zanechala pozitivn\u00ed dojem, aby nelitovali \u010dasu, kter\u00fd v\u011bnovali jej\u00edmu p\u0159e\u010dten\u00ed, aby ji pova\u017eovali za u\u017eite\u010dnou a\u00a0p\u0159\u00ednosnou.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

Je kniha, ke kter\u00e9 se r\u00e1d vrac\u00edte?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kniha, ke kter\u00e9 se vrac\u00edm nejrad\u011bji, je Cejch od Zde\u0148ka \u0160m\u00edda<\/a>. Nejlep\u0161\u00ed kniha, kter\u00e1 kdy o\u00a0Kru\u0161n\u00fdch hor\u00e1ch vy\u0161la. Poka\u017ed\u00e9 v\u00a0n\u00ed najdu n\u011bco nov\u00e9ho, co ovlivn\u00ed m\u016fj \u017eivot a\u00a0moje my\u0161len\u00ed. Naposledy jsem ji do\u010detl letos v\u00a0l\u00e9t\u011b a\u00a0dote\u010f m\u00e1m na l\u00edste\u010dku v\u00a0pen\u011b\u017eence napsanou citaci z\u00a0knihy: \u201eNejlep\u0161\u00ed a\u00a0nejzdrav\u011bj\u0161\u00ed zp\u016fsob, jak vyh\u00e1n\u011bt my\u0161lenky na minulost, je p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let o\u00a0tom, co bude. Mus\u00ed ale p\u0159ed n\u00e1mi, a\u00a0to je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, opravdu n\u011bco b\u00fdt.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rozhovor vy\u0161el v Magaz\u00ednu Luxor v \u0159\u00edjnu 2026. <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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