{"id":332100,"date":"2025-11-14T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-13T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/david-ondracka-kauza-cesko-nikoho-nesetri\/"},"modified":"2025-11-14T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-13T23:00:00","slug":"david-ondracka-kauza-cesko-nikoho-nesetri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/david-ondracka-kauza-cesko-nikoho-nesetri\/","title":{"rendered":"David Ondr\u00e1\u010dka \u2013 Kauza \u010cesko nikoho ne\u0161et\u0159\u00ed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdy\u017e jste b\u011bhem sv&eacute;ho p\u016fsoben&iacute; v Transparency International za\u010d&iacute;nal, s jak&yacute;mi nad\u011bjemi \u010di iluzemi jste vstupoval&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>a kter&eacute; z nich v&aacute;s b\u011bhem let nejv&iacute;ce zklamaly?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">M\u011bl jsem ide&aacute;ly a snad je ani cestou &uacute;pln\u011b neztratil. Ale bojovat s velkou politickou korupc&iacute;, miliardov&yacute;mi kauzami, oligarchi&iacute; a n\u011bkdy i organizovan&yacute;m zlo\u010dinem, to v&aacute;s dost obouch&aacute;, ovlivn&iacute; i osobn&iacute; \u017eivot a na iluze u\u017e moc prostoru&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">nezb&yacute;v&aacute;. Mus&iacute;te b&yacute;t hodn\u011b pragmatick&yacute;, strategick&yacute;, dob\u0159e volit priority a b&yacute;t r&aacute;d i za drobn&eacute; &uacute;sp\u011bchy. Je to hodn\u011b tvrd&aacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">bran\u017ee, to fakt nen&iacute; slun&iacute;\u010dkov&eacute; blbnut&iacute;. V knize nab&iacute;z&iacute;m sv\u016fj osobn&iacute; pohled, vlastn&iacute; zku&scaron;enosti, moji interpretaci kauz,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">sektor\u016f i jednotliv&yacute;ch vl&aacute;d, kontroverze, ostr&eacute; konflikty. Nab&iacute;z&iacute;m sv\u016fj subjektivn&iacute; pohled, jak to funguje v z&aacute;kulis&iacute;, jak se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">financuje politika, jak se tvo\u0159&iacute; kandid&aacute;ti na funkce, jak se vedou trestn&iacute; bitvy, jak&nbsp;funguje policie a justice, jak se vyvozuje politick&aacute; odpov\u011bdnost. Na jednotliv&yacute;ch kauz&aacute;ch popisuji model fungov&aacute;n&iacute; jednotliv&yacute;ch sektor\u016f a chyby syst&eacute;mu.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jsem v t&eacute; knize hodn\u011b kritick&yacute; k politik\u016fm, m&aacute;me od nich cht&iacute;t mnohem lep&scaron;&iacute; v&yacute;kony, ne\u017e p\u0159edv&aacute;d&iacute;. Ale jsem kritick&yacute; i k sob\u011b, a dost osobn&iacute;. Ta kniha nehlad&iacute; po srsti, je v mnoha \u010d&aacute;stech asi i temn&aacute;, ale snad nab&iacute;z&iacute; i nadhled a humor. Nakonec nejde o \u017eivot, aspo\u0148 v\u011bt&scaron;inou.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdo a pro\u010d p\u0159i&scaron;el s n&aacute;vrhem na vznik knihy Kauza \u010cesko?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">M\u011bl jsem vlastn&iacute; pot\u0159ebu ud\u011blat kritickou reflexi sv&eacute; docela unik&aacute;tn&iacute; zku&scaron;enosti, cht\u011bl jsem to sepsat. Doba je dnes stra&scaron;n\u011b rychl&aacute;, ud&aacute;losti se val&iacute; kolem a obratem zapom&iacute;naj&iacute;. \u017dijeme v dost zb\u011bsil&eacute; dob\u011b. Podle m\u011b pot\u0159ebujeme v&iacute;ce ch&aacute;pat na&scaron;e ned&aacute;vn&eacute; d\u011bjiny, na&scaron;i sou\u010dasnost, kriticky ji analyzovat.&nbsp;A moje chu\u0165 toto sepsat se potkala s ochotou nakladatelstv&iacute; Pr&aacute;h tu knihu vydat. Navrhuji sm\u011brovat na&scaron;i zemi ke Druh&eacute; polistopadov&eacute; republice. Pot\u0159ebujeme nov&yacute; za\u010d&aacute;tek, novou vizi a horizont. Jinak se budeme d&aacute;l ml&aacute;tit po hlav&aacute;ch, povedeme tuto zavilou ob\u010danskou v&aacute;lku bez krve a smyslu, nebudeme se poslouchat, ani si rozum\u011bt. R&aacute;d bych, aby nad t&iacute;m politick&aacute; t\u0159&iacute;da i ve\u0159ejnost za\u010dala p\u0159em&yacute;&scaron;let a nazna\u010duji konkr&eacute;tn&iacute; sm\u011bry, jak k tomu j&iacute;t. Na&scaron;e zem\u011b podle m\u011b pot\u0159ebuje spoustu zm\u011bn a reforem. Navrhuji, jak upravit n\u011bkter&eacute; instituce a budovat st&aacute;t, aby odpov&iacute;dal sou\u010dasn&eacute;mu sv\u011btu. Kdyby ta kniha vzbudila debatu t&iacute;mto sm\u011brem, tak budu velmi spokojen&yacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak&yacute;m zp\u016fsobem jste vyb&iacute;ral, kter&eacute; informace v knize zve\u0159ejnit a kter&eacute; ponechat mimo &bdquo;sv\u011btlo&ldquo;?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Napsal jsem toho v prvn&iacute; verzi dvakr&aacute;t v&iacute;c, ne\u017e je nakonec v knize, ale kniha nem\u016f\u017ee m&iacute;t tis&iacute;c stran, tak jsem &scaron;krtal. A t\u0159eba by mohl b&yacute;t i druh&yacute; d&iacute;l, pokud to bude \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e bavit. Vyb&iacute;ral jsem kapitoly, kauzy a situace, na kter&yacute;ch chci vysv\u011btlit hlub&scaron;&iacute; struktur&aacute;ln&iacute; probl&eacute;my. T\u0159eba jako ilustraci nefunk\u010dn&iacute;ho syst&eacute;mu zbrojn&iacute;ch zak&aacute;zek &ndash; popsal jsem n\u011bkolik&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">akvizic, kde ukazuji, pro\u010d se to po\u0159&aacute;d opakuje, a je jedno, jestli jsou to Gripeny, Pandury nebo vrtuln&iacute;ky. Mohl bych popsat i dal&scaron;&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;pady, ale ten syst&eacute;m je po\u0159&aacute;d stejn&yacute;. Nebo pro\u010d a v \u010dem &scaron;patn&eacute; \u0159&iacute;zen&iacute; nemocnic vede ke kauz&aacute;m typu&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Motol, Homolka nebo IKEM. V \u010dem sou\u010dasn&eacute; financov&aacute;n&iacute; sportu vede k dal&scaron;&iacute;m a dal&scaron;&iacute;m pr\u016f&scaron;vih\u016fm.&nbsp;Ale up\u0159&iacute;mn\u011b nejsem &uacute;pln&yacute; &bdquo;sebevrah&ldquo;, abych psal &uacute;pln\u011b naplno v&scaron;echno, co se v z&aacute;kulis&iacute; politiky a byznysu d\u011bje.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V jak&eacute;m smyslu by podle v&aacute;s Kauza \u010cesko mohla (nebo m\u011bla) ovlivnit ve\u0159ejnou debatu? Jak&yacute; byste si p\u0159&aacute;l, aby m\u011bla dopad?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">U\u010d&iacute;m pravideln\u011b studenty na v&yacute;&scaron;k&aacute;ch a vid&iacute;m, \u017ee pro n\u011b v&scaron;e, co se odehr&aacute;lo p\u0159ed p&aacute;r lety, je vlastn\u011b prav\u011bk. A tak to&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">m&aacute;me v&scaron;ichni, zapom&iacute;n&aacute;me. A pro tyto p\u0159em&yacute;&scaron;liv&eacute; studenty i v&scaron;echny lidi nap\u0159&iacute;\u010d generacemi, svou knihu nab&iacute;z&iacute;m. Jako kontext, reflexe, pam\u011b\u0165 toho, co se odehr&aacute;lo je&scaron;t\u011b ned&aacute;vno, ale v&yacute;razn\u011b to ovliv\u0148uje sou\u010dasnost a budoucnost. Nen&iacute; to kronika kauz, douf&aacute;m, \u017ee to je \u017eiv&aacute; a ostr&aacute; anal&yacute;za, kde si lidi \u0159eknou, aha, tak proto se stalo to \u010di ono. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak hodnot&iacute;te zp\u011btn\u011b sv&eacute; roky v Transparency International &ndash; co pova\u017eujete za sv\u016fj nejv\u011bt&scaron;&iacute; &uacute;sp\u011bch?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To nen&iacute; snadn&aacute; ot&aacute;zka, nejsou to memo&aacute;ry, na ty jsem snad je&scaron;t\u011b celkem mlad&yacute;. V knize se sna\u017e&iacute;m b&yacute;t hodn\u011b sebekritick&yacute;, uk&aacute;zat i chyby, kter&eacute; jsem ud\u011blal. A popsat ten kontext, kdy se rozhodujete podle informac&iacute;, kter&eacute; v ten&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">moment m&aacute;te, m&aacute;te kolem sebe opravdu malou arm&aacute;du. Realita nevl&aacute;dek je, \u017ee permanentn\u011b nemaj&iacute; pen&iacute;ze a kapacity,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a z&aacute;rove\u0148 se od nich o\u010dek&aacute;vaj&iacute; a\u017e nere&aacute;ln&eacute; v&yacute;sledky. Transparency st&aacute;la proti obrovsk&yacute;m ekonomick&yacute;m a byznysov&yacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">z&aacute;jm\u016fm, kter&eacute; nemaj&iacute; \u017e&aacute;dn&eacute; limity ani skrupule. T\u011bm jsem cht\u011bl komplikovat jejich k&scaron;efty a dojen&iacute; ve\u0159ejn&yacute;ch rozpo\u010dt\u016f. Mnohdy se to povedlo, zastaven&iacute;m ekologick&eacute;ho supertendru&nbsp;jsme jednor&aacute;zov\u011b u&scaron;et\u0159ili \u010cesku 35 miliard na jedin&eacute; zak&aacute;zce. A takov&yacute;ch bitevjsme odehr&aacute;li stovky. Ale nen&iacute; to sprint, sp&iacute;&scaron; marat&oacute;n, ka\u017ed&aacute; kauza i legislativn&iacute; bitva trv&aacute; dlouho.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V knize se v\u011bnujete i osobn&iacute;m pocit\u016fm euforie, zmaru a vyho\u0159en&iacute;. Co v&aacute;m pomohlo znovu naj&iacute;t motivaci k pokra\u010dov&aacute;n&iacute;&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>v pr&aacute;ci pro ve\u0159ejn&yacute; prostor, i kdy\u017e boj s korupc&iacute; \u010dasto p\u016fsob&iacute; marn\u011b?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Proti korupci v politice verb&aacute;ln\u011b bojuj&iacute; ti nejv\u011bt&scaron;&iacute; gangste\u0159i a zlod\u011bji, to je smutn&aacute; a absurdn&iacute; pod&iacute;van&aacute;. Devalvuje to v&scaron;e&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a lidi naopak nev\u011b\u0159&iacute; ni\u010demu, to je ale jejich z&aacute;m\u011br. \u010casto jsem m\u011bl pocit zmaru a &uacute;navy. Je to jako kdy\u017e lov&iacute;te v \u0159ece ryby, p&aacute;r jich chyt&iacute;te, ale moc dob\u0159e vid&iacute;te, kolik dal&scaron;&iacute;ch jich kolem nohou proplave, nem&aacute;te kapacitu jich pochytat v&iacute;c.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ale chci uk&aacute;zat i nad\u011bji a snad u\u017eite\u010dn&eacute; vhledy, jak na to j&iacute;t, co funguje, co m&aacute; smysl d\u011blat, aby se nepro&scaron;lap&aacute;valy ty stejn&eacute; slep&eacute; uli\u010dky. A taky odvahu a vytrvalost lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; jdou za svou p\u0159edstavou a v\u011bci nakonec dok&aacute;\u017e&iacute; zm\u011bnit, to zaslou\u017e&iacute; ocenit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak&eacute; jsou podle v&aacute;s n\u011bkter&eacute; ze sou\u010dasn&yacute;ch podob moci, kter&eacute; ovliv\u0148uj&iacute; na&scaron;i spole\u010dnost a budou d\u016fle\u017eit&eacute; i v n&aacute;sleduj&iacute;c&iacute;ch&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>letech?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ve v\u011bt&scaron;&iacute; \u010d&aacute;sti knihy popisuji oligarchii, fenom&eacute;n, kter&yacute; do zna\u010dn&eacute; m&iacute;ry mocensky ovl&aacute;d&aacute; \u010cesko, jeho politiku, byznys i z&aacute;kulis&iacute;. Jak oligarchie vznikala, jak funguje, jak&eacute; m&aacute; z&aacute;jmy, jak si h&aacute;j&iacute; sv&eacute; z&aacute;jmy, jak to hraje. Tyto multimiliard&aacute;\u0159e, tuto vrstvu moci chci nasv&iacute;tit a analyzovat, proto\u017ee bez toho jen sledujeme &uacute;navn&eacute; herce (politiky), kte\u0159&iacute; n&aacute;m p\u0159edv&aacute;d&iacute; sv&eacute; divadlo.&nbsp;Pot\u0159ebujeme vid\u011bt ty re\u017eis&eacute;ry a scen&aacute;risty v pozad&iacute;. I o tom je moje kniha.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Za\u010d&aacute;tkem \u0159&iacute;jna prob\u011bhly parlamentn&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">volby. Co v&aacute;s u v&yacute;sledk\u016f pot\u011b&scaron;ilo a co&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">naopak znepokojilo?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Prohr&aacute;la politika gest a k&yacute;\u010de Fialy a Raku&scaron;ana,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">kterou u\u017e spole\u010dnost odm&iacute;tla,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">svou neschopnost&iacute; p\u0159edali Babi&scaron;ovi vl&aacute;du&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">na zlat&eacute;m podnose. Ten se vr&aacute;t&iacute; jako&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Babi&scaron; 2.0, je pou\u010den&yacute;, nezakec&aacute; se. Pokud&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">bude m&iacute;t ve vl&aacute;d\u011b Klausovy Motoristy&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a nesourod&yacute; gang kolem Okamury,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">bude to ob\u010das stra&scaron;n&aacute; vl&aacute;dn&iacute; pod&iacute;van&aacute;.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">P\u0159ijde &eacute;ra k&scaron;eftov&aacute;n&iacute; o ka\u017ed&yacute; hlas,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">spousta z&aacute;kulisn&iacute;ch obchod\u016f, a nakonec&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">dost nestabiln&iacute; vl&aacute;dnut&iacute;. Nedivil bych se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">p\u0159ed\u010dasn&yacute;m volb&aacute;m po n\u011bjak&eacute; dob\u011b.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ale \u017ee se &uacute;pln\u011b norm&aacute;ln\u011b vyst\u0159&iacute;d&aacute; vl&aacute;dn&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">garnitura, m\u016f\u017ee upustit p&aacute;ru v na&scaron;tvan&eacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a hodn\u011b rozd\u011blen&eacute; spole\u010dnosti. V dal&scaron;&iacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">obdob&iacute; to bude tvrd&aacute; zkou&scaron;ka funk\u010dnosti&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">na&scaron;eho pr&aacute;vn&iacute;ho st&aacute;tu, instituc&iacute;, justice,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">m&eacute;di&iacute;, ale \u010cesko to ustoj&iacute; a zvl&aacute;dne.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">A zase budou dal&scaron;&iacute; volby, kter&eacute; mohou&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">dopadnout jinak, pot\u0159ebujeme jen v&yacute;razn&eacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">l&iacute;dry, ne klauny.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Mark&eacute;ta Bolfov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: archiv autora<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Ondr\u00e1\u010dka, dlouholet\u00fd \u0159editel Transparency International, v novince Kauza \u010cesko bilancuje roky boje s korupc\u00ed i vlastn\u00ed zku\u0161enosti z prost\u0159ed\u00ed, kde se ide\u00e1ly st\u0159et\u00e1vaj\u00ed s politickou realitou.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":332101,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-332100","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332100","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332100"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332100\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/332101"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332100"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332100"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332100"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}