{"id":331799,"date":"2024-09-05T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-04T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/katerina-chalupnikova-moje-dcery-mi-ustedrily-velkou-davku-pokory-a-posunuly-hranice\/"},"modified":"2024-09-05T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2024-09-04T22:00:00","slug":"katerina-chalupnikova-moje-dcery-mi-ustedrily-velkou-davku-pokory-a-posunuly-hranice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/katerina-chalupnikova-moje-dcery-mi-ustedrily-velkou-davku-pokory-a-posunuly-hranice\/","title":{"rendered":"Kate\u0159ina Chalupn\u00edkov\u00e1: \u201eMoje dcery mi u\u0161t\u011bd\u0159ily velkou d\u00e1vku pokory a posunuly hranice&#8230;\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Rom&aacute;n <a title=\"MaminkOFF\" href=\"https:\/\/www.knihcentrum.cz\/maminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MaminkOFF<\/a> vypr&aacute;v&iacute; o \u010dty\u0159ech \u017een&aacute;ch, matk&aacute;ch, kter&eacute; si &bdquo;malovaly mate\u0159stv&iacute;&ldquo; tak trochu jinak, ne\u017e jak&aacute;&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>je realita. Pro\u010d jste se pustila pr&aacute;v\u011b do tohoto t&eacute;matu?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Proto\u017ee jsem byla jednou z nich. V za\u010d&aacute;tc&iacute;ch sv&eacute;ho mate\u0159stv&iacute; bych jako \u010dten&aacute;\u0159ka knihu MaminkOFF uv&iacute;tala, aby m\u011b pokonej&scaron;ila, \u017ee se v tom nepl&aacute;c&aacute;m sama. Taky jsem vn&iacute;mala, \u017ee je&scaron;t\u011b po\u0159&aacute;d jsou ohledn\u011b mate\u0159stv&iacute; zapov\u011bzen&eacute; v\u011bty&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a tabuizovan&aacute; t&eacute;mata a cht\u011bla jsem je zviditelnit. P\u0159ed d\u011btmi byl m\u016fj \u017eivot jednodu&scaron;&scaron;&iacute;. M&aacute;m chv&iacute;le, kdy nechci b&yacute;t se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">sv&yacute;mi d\u011btmi. N\u011bkdy si p\u0159edstavuju, \u017ee m\u011b s n\u011b\u010d&iacute;m lehk&yacute;m hospitalizuj&iacute; v nemocnici a p&aacute;r dn&iacute; nebudu doma, budu&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">bez d\u011bt&iacute; a budou mi tam nosit j&iacute;dlo&hellip; Jsou&nbsp;to norm&aacute;ln&iacute; my&scaron;lenky a pocity a \u017e&aacute;dn&aacute; z t\u011bch v\u011bt ne\u0159&iacute;k&aacute;, \u017ee svoje d&iacute;t\u011b nemilujete nebo \u017ee jste &scaron;patn&aacute; m&aacute;ma. Prost\u011b mate\u0159stv&iacute; hraje v&scaron;emi barvami stejn\u011b jako hemeroidy, kter&eacute; v&aacute;m p\u0159i porodu mohou vysk&aacute;kat. A o nich se taky nemluv&iacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Zrcadl&iacute;te se jako matka v n\u011bkter&eacute; ze sv&yacute;ch kni\u017en&iacute;ch postav?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ve v&scaron;ech \u010dty\u0159ech. S \u010dist&yacute;m &scaron;t&iacute;tem \u0159&iacute;k&aacute;m, \u017ee ani jedna z postav nejsem j&aacute; a ani jedna nepro\u017e&iacute;v&aacute; tent&yacute;\u017e p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh, co pro\u017e&iacute;v&aacute;m j&aacute;. Do v&scaron;ech jsem se ale propsala, abych se s nimi dok&aacute;zala ztoto\u017enit a mohla se na sv\u011bt d&iacute;vat jejich o\u010dima. T\u0159eba do Zuzany jsem otiskla svoji zku&scaron;enost, kdy\u017e v&aacute;s nep\u0159ij&iacute;m&aacute; d&iacute;v\u010d&iacute; kolektiv, do Kristiny l&aacute;sku k divadlu, do Marcely&nbsp;p\u0159ehnan\u011b tvrdou slupku, kter&aacute; chr&aacute;n&iacute; k\u0159ehkou bytost uvnit\u0159 atp.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Poci\u0165ujete vy sama, \u017ee mate\u0159stv&iacute; zm\u011bnilo&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">v&aacute;&scaron; pohled na sv\u011bt? M&aacute;m na mysli&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">na sv\u011bt P\u0158ED a PO d\u011btech?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Pro m\u011b to byl zcela z&aacute;sadn&iacute; mezn&iacute;k.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Moje dcery mi u&scaron;t\u011bd\u0159ily velkou d&aacute;vku&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">pokory a posunuly hranice, o kter&yacute;ch&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">jsem si myslela, \u017ee je nikdy nep\u0159ekro\u010d&iacute;m.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Dneska, kdy\u017e vid&iacute;m \u0159vouc&iacute; matku&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">se \u0159vouc&iacute;m d&iacute;t\u011btem, dok&aacute;\u017eu odvypr&aacute;v\u011bt&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">150 p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh\u016f, kter&eacute; situaci p\u0159edch&aacute;zely.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">D&iacute;ky nim to pak vid&iacute;m jin&yacute;ma o\u010dima,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">souc&iacute;t&iacute;m s nimi a neodsuzuji je.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><strong>Jak&eacute; byly prvn&iacute; reakce na v&aacute;&scaron; rom&aacute;n&nbsp;nejen z \u0159ad matek, ale i otc\u016f?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">&bdquo;Je to \u010dtiv&eacute;.&ldquo; &bdquo;P\u0159esn\u011b jak u n&aacute;s doma.&ldquo;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">&bdquo;Poplakala jsem si &ndash; sm&iacute;chem, dojet&iacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">i smutkem.&ldquo; &bdquo;Na konci knihy jsem c&iacute;tila&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">obrovsk&yacute; vd\u011bk za to, co m&aacute;m.&ldquo; Ob\u010das&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">n\u011bkdo napsal t\u0159eba ve dv\u011b r&aacute;no: Nemohla&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">jsem to odlo\u017eit, musela jsem to&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">do\u010d&iacute;st, z&iacute;tra budu jak zombie, fakt d&iacute;k.&ldquo;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mile m\u011b pot\u011b&scaron;ilo, \u017ee sb&iacute;r&aacute;m pozitivn&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ohlasy pr&aacute;v\u011b i od t&aacute;t\u016f a tak&eacute; od babi\u010dek,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a dokonce od \u017een, kter&eacute; d\u011bti nemaj&iacute;. Na&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">za\u010d&aacute;tku vznikala kniha od m&aacute;my pro&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">m&aacute;my, ale kdy\u017e jsem se k n&iacute; pak vracela&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">b\u011bhem redak\u010dn&iacute; pr&aacute;ce, vn&iacute;mala jsem, \u017ee&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">je daleko v&iacute;c o vztaz&iacute;ch a o hled&aacute;n&iacute; cest,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">jak se c&iacute;tit v \u017eivot\u011b dob\u0159e, jak se popasovat&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">se ztr&aacute;tou a bolav&yacute;mi okam\u017eiky.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><strong>Jak&eacute; jsou podle v&aacute;s nej\u010dast\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; &bdquo;n&aacute;lepky&ldquo;&nbsp;maminek?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mo\u017en&aacute; to nen&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;mo n&aacute;lepka jako sp&iacute;&scaron;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">snadn&eacute; odsuzov&aacute;n&iacute; a pohled okol&iacute;,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">\u017ee cokoli ud\u011bl&aacute;te, tak je podle n\u011bkoho&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">&scaron;patn\u011b. S dovolen&iacute;m si vyp\u016fj\u010d&iacute;m \u010d&aacute;st&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">monologu hrubozrnn&eacute; Marcely, kter&aacute; to&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">trefn\u011b vystihuje. Jen j&iacute; pros&iacute;m odpus\u0165te&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ten vulg&aacute;rn&iacute; slovn&iacute;k, ona je uvnit\u0159 citliv&aacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a velice ob\u011btav&aacute;, ale navenek se obestav\u011bla&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">p&oacute;zou velmi tvrd&eacute; \u017eeny.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><em><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jasn\u011b, v&scaron;ichni m&aacute;me matku a asi \u017e&aacute;dn&aacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">matka nen&iacute; ide&aacute;ln&iacute;. Zjistila jsem ale&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">jednu v\u011bc&hellip; Vs\u030cechny &bdquo;norma\u0301lni\u0301&ldquo; matky&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">chte\u030cj pro svoje de\u030ccko to nejleps\u030ci\u0301 a snaz\u030ci\u0301&nbsp;<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>se o ne\u030cj postarat nejli\u0301p, jak mu\u030az\u030c ou.&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Proto moc necha\u0301pu to mater\u030csky\u0301 kouka\u0301ni\u0301&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>skrz prsty. Jakoz\u030ce coz\u030ce?! Jsi&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>kra\u0301va, kdyz\u030c da\u0301va\u0301s\u030c di\u0301te\u030cti la\u0301tkovy\u0301 pli\u0301ny.&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Proc\u030c si takhle pr\u030cida\u0301va\u0301s\u030c pra\u0301ci? A kde to&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>jako skladujes\u030c, kdyz\u030c ne\u030ckam jdes\u030c? A to&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>se te\u030cch hoven jako musi\u0301s\u030c dotknout?!&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Kdybys rads\u030ci de\u030ccku pr\u030cec\u030cetla kni\u0301z\u030cku.&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Anebo: jsi neekologicka\u0301 kra\u0301va, kdyz\u030c&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>pouz\u030ci\u0301 va\u0301s\u030c jednora\u0301zovy\u0301 pleny. To je zlo!&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Chces\u030c zamrdat nas\u030ci planetu ti\u0301mhle&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>hnusem? A to ti jako nevadi\u0301, z\u030ce ten napus\u030cte\u030cnej&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>sajrajt se doty\u0301ka\u0301 zadku tvy\u0301ho&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>de\u030ccka? Nevyberes\u030c si. Kdyz\u030c jsi matka,&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>jsi kra\u0301va. Kra\u0301va s koc\u030ca\u0301rkem, nedejboz\u030ce&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>s dals\u030ci\u0301 m de\u030cckem na odra\u0301z\u030c edle, zabi\u0301raji\u0301ci\u0301&nbsp;<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>chodni\u0301k. Tak to proste\u030c je.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a title=\"MaminkOFF\" href=\"https:\/\/www.knihcentrum.cz\/maminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MaminkOFF<\/a> je va&scaron;e kni\u017en&iacute; prvotina.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Pl&aacute;nujete v psan&iacute; pokra\u010dovat?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">J&aacute; po\u0159&aacute;d n\u011bco p&iacute;&scaron;u a \u010dtu. Je to pro m\u011b&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">p\u0159irozen&yacute; zp\u016fsob existence a komunikace.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">V\u011b\u0159&iacute;m, \u017ee a\u017e uzraje \u010das a bude dostatek&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">materi&aacute;lu, vznikne i nov&aacute; kniha.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Mark&eacute;ta Bolfov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: Jaroslav Ne\u010das<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>O tom, \u017ee mate\u0159stv\u00ed nen\u00ed proch\u00e1zka r\u016f\u017eov\u00fdm sadem a \u017ee okol\u00ed dok\u00e1\u017ee b\u00fdt ob\u010das k mamink\u00e1m nep\u0159im\u011b\u0159en\u011b kritick\u00e9, jsme si pov\u00eddali s Kate\u0159inou Chalupn\u00edkovou, autorkou knihy MaminkOFF.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":331800,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-331799","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/331799","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=331799"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/331799\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/331800"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=331799"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=331799"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=331799"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}