{"id":330937,"date":"2025-11-26T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-25T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/pavel-hubeny-udrzet-kus-prirody-radu-let-bez-lidske-intervence-vyzaduje-spoustu-energie\/"},"modified":"2025-11-26T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T23:00:00","slug":"pavel-hubeny-udrzet-kus-prirody-radu-let-bez-lidske-intervence-vyzaduje-spoustu-energie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/pavel-hubeny-udrzet-kus-prirody-radu-let-bez-lidske-intervence-vyzaduje-spoustu-energie\/","title":{"rendered":"Pavel Huben\u00fd: \u201eUdr\u017eet kus p\u0159\u00edrody \u0159adu let bez lidsk\u00e9 intervence vy\u017eaduje spoustu energie.\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdy se u v&aacute;s probudila l&aacute;ska k p\u0159&iacute;rod\u011b?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To nev&iacute;m. Byla to t&aacute;tova pr&aacute;ce. Byl u\u010ditelem biologie a r&aacute;d chodil ven a ur\u010doval rostliny, hmyz, pt&aacute;ky. V&scaron;echno ho zaj&iacute;malo. Jak jsem s n&iacute;m chodil, jeho v&aacute;&scaron;e\u0148 se p\u0159enesla i na m\u011b.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kniha <a title=\"Divo\u010dina je na&scaron;e &scaron;ance\" href=\"https:\/\/www.knihcentrum.cz\/divocina-je-nase-sance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span style=\"color: #1b3f75;\">Divo\u010dina je na&scaron;e &scaron;ance<\/span><\/a> je vedena formou rozhovoru. Jak se v&aacute;m spolupracovalo s autorem, novin&aacute;\u0159em Radkem&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>&Scaron;t\u011bp&aacute;nkem? A jak dlouho se zn&aacute;te?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Radka zn&aacute;m od doby, kdy jsem se stal \u0159editelem n&aacute;rodn&iacute;ho parku. On byl u\u017e&nbsp;tehdy takov&yacute; sv\u011btl&yacute; bod mezi novin&aacute;\u0159i, proto\u017ee ned\u011blal ze v&scaron;eho konflikt. V\u017edycky ho v&iacute;c zaj&iacute;malo, jak se v\u011bci doopravdy maj&iacute; a co o nich v&scaron;echno v&iacute;me. V t&eacute; dob\u011b na &Scaron;umav\u011b zu\u0159ilo n\u011bkolik konflikt\u016f najednou a nebylo snadn&eacute; b&yacute;t nestrann&yacute;. A Radek podle m\u011b nestrann&yacute; byl. A nebyl povrchn&iacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Je v publikaci n\u011bjak&eacute; posl&aacute;n&iacute;, apel na lidi, spole\u010dnost?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jako u ka\u017ed&eacute;ho d&iacute;la je to v&iacute;c v\u011bc \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e, jestli tam n\u011bjak&yacute; apel vid&iacute;, ne\u017e toho, kdo poskytl rozhovor. Vyjad\u0159ovat n\u011bjak&yacute; apel rozhodn\u011b nebylo m&yacute;m c&iacute;lem. My jsme si pov&iacute;dali o tom, jak to asi cel&eacute; funguje. V p\u0159&iacute;rod\u011b. A pochopiteln\u011b: po\u0159&aacute;d nev&iacute;me v&scaron;e. Hodn\u011b na&scaron;ich \u0159e\u010d&iacute; se vedlo kolem divo\u010diny a jej&iacute;ho smyslu v modern&iacute; dob\u011b. To je pravda. A j&aacute; se sna\u017eil \u0159&iacute;ci, \u017ee m\u011b samotn&eacute;ho p\u0159ekvapuje, \u017ee respekt k divok&eacute; p\u0159&iacute;rod\u011b nen&iacute; ani u modern&iacute; spole\u010dnosti n\u011bco automatick&eacute;ho. Udr\u017eet&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">kus p\u0159&iacute;rody \u0159adu let bez lidsk&eacute; intervence vy\u017eaduje spoustu energie.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V knize rozeb&iacute;r&aacute;te r\u016fzn&aacute; t&eacute;mata, jedn&iacute;m z nich je n&aacute;vrat vlk\u016f do p\u0159&iacute;rody. Pro\u010d je toto kontroverzn&iacute; t&eacute;ma d\u016fle\u017eit&eacute;? Jak to&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>v\u016fbec s vlky v p\u0159&iacute;rod\u011b vypad&aacute; v sou\u010dasnosti?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Vlci na &Scaron;umav\u011b by vlastn\u011b nem\u011bli b&yacute;t v\u016fbec kontroverzn&iacute; t&eacute;ma. Na &Scaron;umavu se p\u0159ed \u0159adou let vr&aacute;tili divo\u010d&aacute;ci, kter&eacute; jsme<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">d\u0159&iacute;ve vyhubili, podobn\u011b jako vlky. A nikdo to za kontroverzn&iacute; t&eacute;ma nepova\u017eoval. Vlci do p\u0159&iacute;rody pat\u0159&iacute; tak&eacute; a jejich efekt je vid\u011bt. Odr\u016fstaj&iacute; l&eacute;pe jedle nebo javory. Jen proto, \u017ee b&yacute;lo\u017eravci jsou ve v\u011bt&scaron;&iacute;m pohybu a je jich o n\u011bco m&eacute;n\u011b. Te\u010f tu m&aacute;me p&aacute;r sme\u010dek, d&iacute;ky nim\u017e se stavy vysok&eacute; zv\u011b\u0159e na n\u011bkolik let stabilizovaly. Tak\u017ee se pln&iacute; model fungov&aacute;n&iacute; divok&eacute; p\u0159&iacute;rody v jej&iacute; vlastn&iacute; rovnov&aacute;ze.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Zaujala m\u011b tak&eacute; kapitola nazvan&aacute; Stromy vypr&aacute;v\u011bj&iacute; sv\u016fj vlastn&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh. Jak&yacute;?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Stromy vypr&aacute;v\u011bj&iacute; mnoho p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh\u016f. Jsou to \u017eiv&eacute; entity, tak\u017ee ka\u017ed&yacute; z nich m&aacute;, stejn\u011b jako lid&eacute;, svoji minulost, sv&aacute; traumata i doby &scaron;\u0165astn&eacute;ho r\u016fstu. A les, jako spole\u010denstv&iacute; t\u011bchto bytost&iacute;, lze p\u0159irovnat k n&aacute;rodu, kter&yacute; na n\u011bjak&eacute;m &uacute;zem&iacute; \u017eije, sna\u017e&iacute; se p\u0159e\u017e&iacute;t, a odol&aacute;v&aacute; r\u016fzn&yacute;m vliv\u016fm. Hodn\u011b se d&aacute; vy\u010d&iacute;st z letokruh\u016f, tak&eacute; z p\u016fdy, z hub&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Dozv&iacute;me se i to, co spousta z n&aacute;s dnes ur\u010dit\u011b tak&eacute; vn&iacute;m&aacute; &ndash; lid&eacute; t&eacute;m\u011b\u0159 p\u0159estali (a\u017e na jednotlivce) chodit do p\u0159&iacute;rody. Je&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>to podle v&aacute;s nen&aacute;vratn&eacute;, nebo je n\u011bco, \u010d&iacute;m bychom je op\u011bt mohli k vych&aacute;zk&aacute;m a toulk&aacute;m krajinou (nejen po vybudovan&yacute;ch cest&aacute;ch) p\u0159im\u011bt?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Tady se asi spousta lid&iacute; ohrad&iacute;, proto\u017ee mnoho z nich je zvykl&yacute;ch chodit do p\u0159&iacute;rody. B\u011bhat, chodit na proch&aacute;zky, jezdit na kole. V t&eacute; knize je to sp&iacute;&scaron; my&scaron;leno jinak, \u017ee lid&eacute; m&aacute;lo chod&iacute; do p\u0159&iacute;rody tak, aby ji vn&iacute;mali skute\u010dn\u011b plnohodnotn\u011b. Aby chodili i bezcest&iacute;mi. D\u0159&iacute;v bylo v p\u0159&iacute;rod\u011b spousta lid&iacute;, proto\u017ee tam \u017eili a pracovali. Takov&yacute;ch lid&iacute; je u\u017e m&aacute;lo. A mnoz&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">z t\u011bch, kte\u0159&iacute; chod&iacute; do p\u0159&iacute;rody, ji vn&iacute;maj&iacute; v&iacute;ce jako kulisu ne\u017e jako \u017eivotn&iacute; prostor. Chceme na to jen upozornit. T\u0159eba se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">n\u011bkdo, kdo si to p\u0159e\u010dte, zamysl&iacute; a zkus&iacute; to jinak.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>&Scaron;umava nab&iacute;z&iacute; jedine\u010dn&eacute; ekosyst&eacute;my, kter&eacute; se nikde jinde u n&aacute;s nenach&aacute;z&iacute;. P&iacute;&scaron;e se v knize tak&eacute; o nich?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">My tam nerozeb&iacute;r&aacute;me n\u011bjak&eacute; p\u0159&iacute;rodn&iacute; zvl&aacute;&scaron;tnosti. Bav&iacute;me se sp&iacute;&scaron; o tom, jak to funguje jako celek. A co je na tom fascinuj&iacute;c&iacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>&Uacute;dajn\u011b vznik&aacute; na &Scaron;umav\u011b n\u011bco, co nem&aacute; ve st\u0159edn&iacute; Evrop\u011b obdoby. Prozrad&iacute;te, co to je, nebo \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e odk&aacute;\u017eete na&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>knihu?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To nen&iacute; nic tajn&eacute;ho. U\u017e dnes je na &Scaron;umav\u011b a v Bavorsk&eacute;m lese nejv\u011bt&scaron;&iacute; souvisl&eacute; lesn&iacute; &uacute;zem&iacute;, kde se net\u011b\u017e&iacute; a kde se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">nech&aacute;v&aacute; p\u0159&iacute;roda sama sob\u011b. P\u0159in&aacute;&scaron;&iacute; to efekty, kter&eacute; p\u0159ekvap&iacute;, n\u011bkdy i &scaron;okuj&iacute;. Nakonec ale vlastn\u011b v\u017edycky p\u0159inesou pocit&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">&uacute;\u017easu a n\u011b\u010deho, co by se dalo nazvat proz\u0159en&iacute;m. Nebo osv&iacute;cen&iacute;m.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak vid&iacute;te budoucnost ochrany p\u0159&iacute;rody nejen v na&scaron;em nejv\u011bt&scaron;&iacute;m n&aacute;rodn&iacute;m parku, ale v cel&eacute; \u010cesk&eacute; republice?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Bohu\u017eel nelze \u0159&iacute;ci, \u017ee by n&aacute;rodn&iacute; parky le\u017eely v prostoru mimo politiku. Jsou to za\u0159&iacute;zen&iacute; z\u0159&iacute;zen&aacute; st&aacute;tem, a tak m&aacute; politick&yacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">v&yacute;voj na jejich stav velk&yacute; vliv. Vid&iacute;me to dnes na Slovensku. Na Ukrajin\u011b \u0159ada chr&aacute;n\u011bn&yacute;ch &uacute;zem&iacute; kv\u016fli v&aacute;lce zanikla. J&aacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">douf&aacute;m, \u017ee v \u010cech&aacute;ch budou v\u017edy ch&aacute;p&aacute;na jako n&aacute;rodn&iacute; divadla p\u0159&iacute;rody. A t&iacute;m budou ochr&aacute;n\u011bna p\u0159ed p\u0159&iacute;padn&yacute;mi ne&scaron;\u0165astn&yacute;mi rozhodnut&iacute;mi, kter&aacute; by je vr&aacute;tila do stavu produk\u010dn&iacute;ch a intenzivn\u011b vyu\u017e&iacute;van&yacute;ch oblast&iacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Kate\u0159ina \u017d&iacute;dkov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: So\u0148a M&auml;kk&aacute;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pavel Huben\u00fd se v ochran\u011b p\u0159\u00edrody profesn\u011b pohybuje u\u017e od konce 80. let minul\u00e9ho stolet\u00ed a v roce 2014 se stal \u0159editelem Spr\u00e1vy N\u00e1rodn\u00edho parku \u0160umava. V knize Divo\u010dina je na\u0161e \u0161ance formou rozhovoru s redaktorem a environmentalistou Radkem \u0160t\u011bp\u00e1nkem p\u0159ibli\u017euje sv\u016fj pohled na minulost, sou\u010dasnost i budoucnost ochrany<br \/>\np\u0159\u00edrody a komentuje i kontroverzn\u00ed a ost\u0159e sledovan\u00e1 t\u00e9mata.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":330938,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-330937","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/330937","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=330937"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/330937\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/330938"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=330937"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=330937"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=330937"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}