{"id":330851,"date":"2022-11-24T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-23T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/hana-zobacova-pri-cetbe-nahlas-detem-se-pravidelne-sama-dojmu\/"},"modified":"2022-11-24T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-11-23T23:00:00","slug":"hana-zobacova-pri-cetbe-nahlas-detem-se-pravidelne-sama-dojmu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/hana-zobacova-pri-cetbe-nahlas-detem-se-pravidelne-sama-dojmu\/","title":{"rendered":"Hana Zoba\u010dov\u00e1 \u201eP\u0159i \u010detb\u011b nahlas d\u011btem se pravideln\u011b sama dojmu.\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Jste vystudovan&aacute; speci&aacute;ln&iacute; pedago\u017eka, tak\u017ee zam\u011b\u0159en&iacute; na d\u011bti u\u017e m&aacute;te veps&aacute;no do \u017eivotopisu dlouho. Kde se ve v&aacute;s vzala l&aacute;ska k pr&aacute;ci s textem?<\/strong><br \/>P\u0159ed 15 lety m\u011b oslovilo nakladatelstv&iacute; Pasparta, jestli bych s nimi neud\u011blala kn&iacute;\u017eku pro d\u011bti s poruchou autistick&eacute;ho spektra. A za s&eacute;rii t\u011bchto knih jsme v roce 2017 dostali ocen\u011bn&iacute; Zlat&aacute; stuha. Pak mi do&scaron;lo, \u017ee bych cht\u011bla ps&aacute;t i pro &scaron;ir&scaron;&iacute; skupinu mal&yacute;ch \u010dten&aacute;\u0159\u016f. Po kn&iacute;\u017ek&aacute;ch poh&aacute;dek s genetickou metodou \u010dten&iacute;, kter&eacute; u\u017e mi vy&scaron;ly v Port&aacute;le, jsem zkusila i slo\u017eit\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; texty pro star&scaron;&iacute; \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e. <\/p>\n<div><strong>Kdy\u017e p&iacute;&scaron;ete, p\u0159edstavujete si d\u011bti, jak budou reagovat, nebo m&aacute;te doma sv&eacute; mal&eacute; &bdquo;beta\u010dten&aacute;\u0159e&ldquo;, na kter&yacute;ch zkou&scaron;&iacute;te, co funguje?<\/strong><br \/>Sobecky mus&iacute;m \u0159&iacute;ct, \u017ee p&iacute;&scaron;u hlavn\u011b to, co bav&iacute; m\u011b. Pak si to vyzkou&scaron;&iacute;m na vlastn&iacute;ch d\u011btech a ve chv&iacute;li, kdy mus&iacute;m dovysv\u011btlovat, v&iacute;m, \u017ee n\u011bco budu muset p\u0159ed\u011blat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>U\u017e&iacute;v&aacute;te si \u010dten&iacute; nahlas?<\/strong><br \/>Pravideln\u011b se p\u0159i \u010detb\u011b sama dojmu, m\u011bn&iacute;m hlasy, p\u0159id&aacute;v&aacute;m vyk\u0159i\u010dn&iacute;ky, co\u017e je z&aacute;bavn&eacute;, hlavn\u011b kdy\u017e se trochu p\u0159edb\u011bhnu a text m\u011b vz&aacute;p\u011bt&iacute; po&scaron;le jinou cestou ne\u017e v&yacute;raznou emoc&iacute;, do kter&eacute; jsem se p\u0159edt&iacute;m polo\u017eila. \u010cetbou nahlas pro sv&eacute; d\u011bti si taky ospravedl\u0148uju to, \u017ee \u010dtu knihu, kter&aacute; u\u017e m&eacute;mu v\u011bku vlastn\u011b nep\u0159&iacute;slu&scaron;&iacute;. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Kdy\u017e jste byla mal&aacute;, \u010detli v&aacute;m rodi\u010de? Nebo jste byla u\u017e odmala samostatn&aacute; \u010dten&aacute;\u0159ka?<\/strong> <br \/>Maminka n&aacute;m \u010detla. Kdy\u017e jsem m\u011bla v p\u011bti letech z&aacute;pal plic, nutila jsem ji \u010d&iacute;st po\u0159&aacute;d dokola Dobr&eacute; r&aacute;no na zahr&aacute;dce. A t&aacute;ta si tak dvakr&aacute;t t\u0159ikr&aacute;t do t&yacute;dne na&scaron;el ve\u010der \u010das a vypr&aacute;v\u011bl n&aacute;m popleten&eacute; poh&aacute;dky. Milovala jsem Trose\u010dn&iacute;ky z Vla&scaron;tovky a Z&aacute;hadu hlavolamu, ale taky si pamatuju, \u017ee m\u011b d\u011bsn\u011b roz\u010dilovaly kn&iacute;\u017eky jako Alenka v \u0159&iacute;&scaron;i div\u016f, kde se v\u011bci d\u011bly nesmysln\u011b a m&aacute;tlo m\u011b to. Tehdy jsem nonsens nedok&aacute;zala ocenit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kdy\u017e u\u017e jsme u toho vzpom&iacute;n&aacute;n&iacute;, co si pamatujete&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>z V&aacute;noc?<\/strong><br \/>T\u011b&scaron;en&iacute; na V&aacute;noce bylo v\u017edycky hrozn\u011b dlouh&eacute;, prosinec vydal za dva m\u011bs&iacute;ce. Sou\u010d&aacute;st&iacute; sv&aacute;tk\u016f bylo zdoben&iacute; stromku na &Scaron;t\u011bdr&yacute; den, to byla pr&aacute;ce n&aacute;s d\u011bt&iacute;. Z pohledu m\u011b jako rodi\u010de je mi dnes &uacute;pln\u011b jasn&eacute;, \u017ee n&aacute;s t&iacute;m na&scaron;i zabavili aspo\u0148 na kus dne. A taky u n&aacute;s, p\u0159ev&aacute;lcov&aacute;n komunistickou propagandou, d&aacute;rky nenosil Je\u017e&iacute;&scaron;ek &ndash; co\u017e ale nevadilo a stejn\u011b jsme mu se sestrou ka\u017ed&yacute; rok napsaly dopis. V\u016fbec mi to nep\u0159i&scaron;lo divn&eacute;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A co si budou pamatovat z V&aacute;noc va&scaron;e d\u011bti?<\/strong><br \/>\u017de se u n&aacute;s Je\u017e&iacute;&scaron;ek st\u011bhuje a p&iacute;&scaron;e se mu podle toho, k jak&eacute; \u010d&aacute;sti rodiny ten rok cestujeme. A \u017ee si o adventu upe\u010deme pern&iacute;ky, ozdob&iacute;me je, ale polevu pak stejn\u011b odloubeme, proto\u017ee n&aacute;m nechutn&aacute;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ide&aacute;ln\u011b by mohla b&yacute;t va&scaron;e kn&iacute;\u017eka jednou z t\u011bch, kter&eacute; hezky zapadnou do v&aacute;no\u010dn&iacute;ho \u010dasu. Je to poh&aacute;dka, nebo re&aacute;ln&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh?<\/strong><br \/>Od oboj&iacute;ho kousek. Je to Z&aacute;zrak o V&aacute;noc&iacute;ch, tak\u017ee tam oby\u010dejn&eacute; d\u011bti za\u017eij&iacute; na V&aacute;noce n\u011bco neoby\u010dejn&eacute;ho. Betl&eacute;m, kter&yacute; stoj&iacute; snad na ka\u017ed&eacute;m n&aacute;m\u011bst&iacute; a v ka\u017ed&eacute;m kostele, ob\u017eivne. Proto si mysl&iacute;m, \u017ee se s partou d\u011bt&iacute; ze Z&aacute;zraku o V&aacute;noc&iacute;ch m\u016f\u017ee ztoto\u017enit ka\u017ed&eacute; d&iacute;t\u011b. Sna\u017eila jsem se v p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhu nerozbourat p\u0159edstavu, \u017ee d&aacute;rky nos&iacute; Je\u017e&iacute;&scaron;ek. To nech&aacute;m na ka\u017ed&eacute;m zvl&aacute;&scaron;\u0165 a na ka\u017ed&eacute; rodin\u011b, kde, kdo a co nos&iacute;. Ale sna\u017eila jsem se d\u011btem p\u0159edat informaci, \u017ee d&aacute;t n\u011bkomu d&aacute;rek m\u016f\u017ee b&yacute;t stejn\u011b hezk&eacute; jako d&aacute;rek dostat.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Magda Veverkov&aacute; Hrn\u010d&iacute;\u0159ov&aacute; knize ur\u010dit\u011b p\u0159idala v ilustrac&iacute;ch dal&scaron;&iacute; &uacute;rove\u0148 p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhu. M\u016f\u017ee si autor vyb&iacute;rat ilustr&aacute;tora?<\/strong><br \/>Jsem v tomto ohledu hodn\u011b pokorn&yacute; autor, jsme tu od p&iacute;smenek a ilustr&aacute;tor od obr&aacute;zk\u016f. Nakladatelstv&iacute; zase dob\u0159e rozum&iacute; tomu, jak&eacute;ho autora s jak&yacute;m ilustr&aacute;torem spojit. Kdybych s vymy&scaron;len&yacute;m spojen&iacute;m hodn\u011b nesouhlasila, tak bych se ozvala, ale zat&iacute;m jsem k tomu nem\u011bla d\u016fvod.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P\u0159ekvap&iacute; v&aacute;s n\u011bkdy, jak&eacute; sc&eacute;ny si ilustr&aacute;tor vybere a jak je ztv&aacute;rn&iacute;? Nebo jste typ autorky, kter&aacute; m&aacute; velmi p\u0159esnou p\u0159edstavu, jak by m\u011bla v&yacute;tvarn&aacute; \u010d&aacute;st knihy vypadat?<\/strong><br \/>Knihy \u010dasto vn&iacute;m&aacute;m a vid&iacute;m jako film. Tak\u017ee ilustrace m\u011b v\u017edycky p\u0159ekvap&iacute;. Jsou &uacute;pln\u011b jin&eacute;, ne\u017e jak&eacute; jsou moje p\u0159edstavy, ale nevad&iacute; mi to. Je to, jako kdy\u017e stejn&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh zpracuje v&iacute;c autor\u016f. Vlastn\u011b je vn&iacute;m&aacute;m paraleln\u011b a moje hlava si z ka\u017ed&eacute;ho vezme to pro m\u011b hez\u010d&iacute;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Co v&aacute;m le\u017e&iacute; doma za kn&iacute;\u017eku na no\u010dn&iacute;m stolku? Na kterou kn&iacute;\u017eku se chyst&aacute;te?<\/strong><br \/>\u010ctu knihu Daniela Prokopa Slep&eacute; skvrny. Je to \u010dten&iacute; nesm&iacute;rn\u011b pou\u010dn&eacute; a obohacuj&iacute;c&iacute;, ale ne &uacute;pln\u011b radostn&eacute;. Tak si jej mus&iacute;m d&aacute;vkovat po men&scaron;&iacute;ch l\u017ei\u010dk&aacute;ch a s ka\u017edou kapitolou vlastn\u011b za\u010d&iacute;n&aacute;m znovu.<\/p>\n<p>Text a Foto: Kate\u0159ina Koke&scaron;ov&aacute;<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hana Zoba\u010dov\u00e1 se od pr\u00e1ce s d\u011btmi s handicapem dostala k psan\u00ed d\u011btsk\u00fdch knih a spojila v nich porozum\u011bn\u00ed pro d\u011btsk\u00fd sv\u011bt a schopnost vypr\u00e1v\u011bt<br \/>\np\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy. Ten posledn\u00ed se jmenuje Z\u00e1zrak o V\u00e1noc\u00edch.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":330852,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-330851","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/330851","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=330851"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/330851\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/330852"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=330851"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=330851"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=330851"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}