{"id":329841,"date":"2019-01-29T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-01-28T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/beseda-jan-dvorak-a-jaroslav-formanek-cechoslovaci-v-gulagu-ii\/"},"modified":"2019-01-29T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2019-01-28T23:00:00","slug":"beseda-jan-dvorak-a-jaroslav-formanek-cechoslovaci-v-gulagu-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/beseda-jan-dvorak-a-jaroslav-formanek-cechoslovaci-v-gulagu-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Beseda: Jan Dvo\u0159\u00e1k a Jaroslav Form\u00e1nek &#8211; \u010cechoslov\u00e1ci v Gulagu II."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>P\u0159ipad&aacute; mi, \u017ee kdy\u017e se mluv&iacute; o t&aacute;borech, mnohem v\u011bt&scaron;&iacute; pozornost je v\u011bnovan&aacute; t\u011bm nacistick&yacute;m a gulagy jsou mo\u017en&aacute; upozad\u011bny. Vid&iacute;te to podobn\u011b?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Form&aacute;nek: <\/em>Asi m&aacute;te pravdu. Souvis&iacute; to s&nbsp;t&iacute;m, \u017ee se o t&eacute;to problematice d\u0159&iacute;ve moc nemluvilo, neexistovalo ani moc informac&iacute;, proto\u017ee Rusk&eacute; archivy byly nep\u0159&iacute;stupn&eacute;. Situace se zm\u011bnila a\u017e v&nbsp;90. letech.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdy\u017e se vr&aacute;t&iacute;me &uacute;pln\u011b na za\u010d&aacute;tek cel&eacute; my&scaron;lenky. Co v&aacute;s k&nbsp;tomu p\u0159im\u011blo?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Dvo\u0159&aacute;k: <\/em>Asi bych m\u011bl za\u010d&iacute;t t&iacute;m, \u017ee pracuji v &Uacute;stavu pro studium totalitn&iacute;ch re\u017eim\u016f od roku 2010 a p\u016fvodn\u011b jsme za\u010dali s&nbsp;nat&aacute;\u010den&iacute;m \u017eij&iacute;c&iacute;ch pam\u011btn&iacute;k\u016f. N\u011bkdy v&nbsp;roce 2012 jsme se vydali na Ukrajinu a za\u010dali jsme s&nbsp;v&yacute;zkumem. Studovali jsme vybran&eacute; materi&aacute;ly a v&nbsp;roce 2014 se otev\u0159ely dal&scaron;&iacute; archivy, kter&eacute; jsme studovali zejm&eacute;na v&nbsp;Kyjev\u011b a Lvov\u011b.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Podle \u010deho jste vyb&iacute;rali konkr&eacute;tn&iacute; osudy a konkr&eacute;tn&iacute; osobnosti do va&scaron;ich knih?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Form&aacute;nek: <\/em>Ob\u011b knihy jsou koncipov&aacute;ny do t\u0159&iacute; \u010d&aacute;st&iacute;. Prvn&iacute; \u010d&aacute;st se t&yacute;k&aacute; lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; se ocitli v&nbsp;Rusku \u010di Sov\u011btsk&eacute;m svazu p\u0159ed za\u010d&aacute;tkem 2. sv\u011btov&eacute; v&aacute;lky. Druh&aacute; \u010d&aacute;st se t&yacute;k&aacute; lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; utekli do Sov\u011btsk&eacute;ho svazu p\u0159ed nacizmem. A t\u0159et&iacute; \u010d&aacute;st je postavena na osudech lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; jsou n\u011bjak&yacute;m zp\u016fsobem spojeni se Sov\u011btsk&yacute;m svazem, n\u011bco tam za\u017eili a pot&eacute; se vr&aacute;tili do \u010ceskoslovenska.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Z&nbsp;jak&yacute;ch d\u016fvod\u016f se na&scaron;i krajan&eacute; vydali do Sov\u011btsk&eacute;ho svazu \u010di Ruska?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Dvo\u0159&aacute;k: <\/em>Tak ty d\u016fvody byly odli&scaron;n&eacute; v&nbsp;r\u016fzn&yacute;ch obdob&iacute;ch. 1. generace se t&yacute;kala lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; ode&scaron;li ji\u017e v&nbsp;pr\u016fb\u011bhu 19. stolet&iacute; hospoda\u0159it do Ruska. Dal&scaron;&iacute; skupinou byli lid&eacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; sem odch&aacute;zeli z&nbsp;politick&yacute;ch \u010di ekonomick&yacute;ch d\u016fvod\u016f. Po vypuknut&iacute; 2. sv\u011btov&eacute; v&aacute;lky lid&eacute; prchali nejd\u0159&iacute;ve do Polska, pot&eacute; do Sov\u011btsk&eacute;ho svazu.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Z&nbsp;jak&yacute;ch d\u016fvod\u016f se na&scaron;i lid&eacute; dost&aacute;vali do gulag\u016f?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Form&aacute;nek: <\/em>V&nbsp;naprost&eacute; v\u011bt&scaron;in\u011b proto, \u017ee byli obvin\u011bni ze &scaron;pion&aacute;\u017ee.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>D&aacute; se dnes v\u016fbec dohledat, podle \u010deho si vyb&iacute;rali lidi, kter&eacute; pozd\u011bji zav&iacute;rali?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Dvo\u0159&aacute;k: <\/em>Z&aacute;le\u017eelo na obdob&iacute;, ve kter&eacute;m byli ti lid&eacute; vystaven&iacute; repres&iacute;m. Ono u\u017e b&yacute;t cizincem vzbuzovalo podez\u0159en&iacute;. V&nbsp;obdob&iacute; 2. sv\u011btov&eacute; v&aacute;lky to byli v&scaron;ichni uprchl&iacute;ci, byli pova\u017eov&aacute;ni za nebezpe\u010dn&eacute;, byli odsuzov&aacute;ni a pos&iacute;l&aacute;ni bez rozsudku na Sibi\u0159.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V&iacute; se dnes, jak&aacute; byla &uacute;mrtnost v&nbsp;jednotliv&yacute;ch t&aacute;borech?<br \/><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Form&aacute;nek: <\/em>Jsou to data, kter&aacute; se vedla, ale p\u0159esn&eacute; statistiky neexistuj&iacute;, proto\u017ee t\u011bch t&aacute;bor\u016f byly tis&iacute;ce. Statistiky nejsou &uacute;pln\u011b p\u0159esn&eacute;. Jedno z&nbsp;nejhor&scaron;&iacute;ch obdob&iacute; bylo kolem roku 1940, 1941. Ta &uacute;mrtnost se zvy&scaron;ovala a byla zhruba kolem dvaceti procent.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>J. Dvo\u0159&aacute;k:<\/em> Podle sv\u011bdectv&iacute; u\u017e&nbsp;samotn&eacute; zat\u010den&iacute; byl obrovsk&yacute; &scaron;ok, proto\u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk byl nevinn&yacute;. N&aacute;sledovala vazba v&nbsp;nelidsk&yacute;ch podm&iacute;nk&aacute;ch, p\u0159ecpan&eacute; cely, nedostatek j&iacute;dla, transport do odlehl&yacute;ch kon\u010din.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #1b3f75; font-size: 26pt;\"><strong>O autorovi<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Mgr. Jan Dvo\u0159&aacute;k Ph.D.<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8211; historik p\u016fsob&iacute;c&iacute; od roku 2010 v &Uacute;stavu pro studium totalitn&iacute;ch re\u017eim\u016f v Praze. Magistersk&eacute; i doktorandsk&eacute; studium historie absolvoval na Slezsk&eacute; univerzit\u011b v Opav\u011b. Specializuje se na \u010desk&eacute; a \u010deskoslovensk&eacute; d\u011bjiny 20. stolet&iacute; &ndash; konkr&eacute;tn\u011b na tematiku politick&yacute;ch repres&iacute; v SSSR a d\u011bjiny \u017eidovsk&yacute;ch komunit ve st\u0159edn&iacute; Evrop\u011b. Je autorem n\u011bkolika tematick&yacute;ch publikac&iacute; a \u0159ady odborn&yacute;ch i populariza\u010dn&iacute;ch \u010dl&aacute;nk\u016f.<\/p>\n<p>Besedu moderovala: Sandra Proch&aacute;zkov&aacute;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/K9rDoUdiX9s\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gulag je dnes synonymem pro ozna\u010den\u00ed v\u0161ech podob repres\u00ed ze strany sov\u011btsk\u00fdch totalitn\u00edch re\u017eim\u016f. Druh\u00fd d\u00edl knihy \u010cechoslov\u00e1ci v Gulagu, kter\u00fd je voln\u00fdm pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00edm publikace odvozen\u00e9 od stejnojmenn\u00e9ho televizn\u00edho dokumentu \u010cesk\u00e9 televize, p\u0159edstavili v Dom\u011b knihy auto\u0159i Jan Dvo\u0159\u00e1k a Jaroslav Form\u00e1nek.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":329842,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-329841","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329841","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=329841"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329841\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/329842"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=329841"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=329841"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=329841"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}