{"id":329275,"date":"2016-05-05T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-05-04T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/karel-hvizdala-heterogenni-spolecnosti-jsou-silnejsi-nez-homogenni\/"},"modified":"2016-05-05T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-05-04T22:00:00","slug":"karel-hvizdala-heterogenni-spolecnosti-jsou-silnejsi-nez-homogenni","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/karel-hvizdala-heterogenni-spolecnosti-jsou-silnejsi-nez-homogenni\/","title":{"rendered":"Karel Hv\u00ed\u017e\u010fala: Heterogenn\u00ed spole\u010dnosti jsou siln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e homogenn\u00ed"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: right; margin: 10px;\" src=\"\/content\/images\/uploaded\/karel hvizdala.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"253\" height=\"347\" title=\"\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">S \u010desk&yacute;m novin&aacute;\u0159em a esejistou <a href=\"\/autor\/karel-hvizdala-1#author-full-description\"><span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong>Karlem&nbsp;<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"\/autor\/karel-hvizdala-1#author-full-description\"><span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong>Hv&iacute;\u017e\u010falou<\/strong><\/span><\/a> jsme si pov&iacute;dali nejen o jeho&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">nov&eacute; knize.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><br \/><em><strong>Jak dlouho vznikala kniha Evropa, Rusko, terorist&eacute; a b\u011b\u017eenci?<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Rok: m&aacute; podtitul Profesorsk&eacute; dialogy 2015.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><em><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">\u010cten&aacute;\u0159i v n&iacute; najdou p\u0159ev&aacute;\u017en\u011b rozhovory s univerzitn&iacute;mi profesory&#8230;<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">&#8230; a vysoko&scaron;kolsk&yacute;mi u\u010diteli, kte\u0159&iacute; v\u011bt&scaron;inou \u017eij&iacute; mimo \u010cR. Rozhovory&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">mapuj&iacute; eskaluj&iacute;c&iacute; krize roku 2015, kter&yacute; r&aacute;muj&iacute; dva masakry&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">v Pa\u0159&iacute;\u017ei: 7. ledna byla vyvra\u017ed\u011bna \u010d&aacute;st redakce Charlie Hebdo&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">a v noci z 13. na 14. listopadu tam bylo zabito 130 lid&iacute;. EU t\u011b\u017eko&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">zabr&aacute;nila finan\u010dn&iacute;mu kolapsu \u0158ecka, Brit&aacute;nie za\u010dala vyhro\u017eovat&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">vystoupen&iacute;m z EU, po Ma\u010farsku i Polsko ochromilo &uacute;stavn&iacute; soud,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">zest&aacute;tnilo ve\u0159ejnopr&aacute;vn&iacute; m&eacute;dia a v&scaron;echny st&aacute;ty st\u0159edn&iacute; Evropy&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">se odm&iacute;tly pod&iacute;let na p\u0159&iacute;jmu uprchl&iacute;k\u016f, kter&yacute;ch do EU p\u0159i&scaron;lo&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">asi jeden a p\u016fl milionu. V zahrani\u010d&iacute; musela EU spolu s NATO&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">zasahovat v Ir&aacute;ku a S&yacute;rii, pokou&scaron;ela se vyjednat p\u0159&iacute;m\u011b\u0159&iacute; na Ukrajin\u011b.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Na Rusko, kter&eacute; bylo oslabeno p&aacute;dem ceny ropy, byly kv\u016fli&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">poru&scaron;en&iacute; celistvosti krajiny uvaleny sankce atd.. Ke v&scaron;em teroristick&yacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">&uacute;tok\u016fm se p\u0159ihl&aacute;sil tzv. Isl&aacute;msk&yacute; st&aacute;t. K eskalaci nap\u011bt&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">v roce 2015 p\u0159isp\u011blo i sest\u0159elen&iacute; rusk&eacute;ho bombard&eacute;ru Su-24 dne&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">24. listopadu Turky. Zd&aacute; se, \u017ee tento rok a dal&scaron;&iacute; l&eacute;ta by mohla&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">b&yacute;t pro na&scaron;i existenci velmi d\u016fle\u017eit&aacute;, proto\u017ee spol&eacute;hat na to, \u017ee&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">v&scaron;echny probl&eacute;my za n&aacute;s vy\u0159e&scaron;&iacute; Spojen&eacute; st&aacute;ty, u\u017e nelze. Mus&iacute;me&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">si zvyknout, \u017ee zv&yacute;&scaron;en&aacute; m&iacute;ra rizika pat\u0159&iacute; k z&aacute;vazn\u011b \u017eit&eacute;mu \u017eivotu&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">a \u017ee budeme muset n\u011bco ze sv&eacute;ho pohodl&iacute; ob\u011btovat.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><em><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Se kter&yacute;mi profesory jste hovo\u0159il? Podle \u010deho jste osobnosti vyb&iacute;ral?<\/span><\/strong><\/em><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Hledal jsem takov&eacute; vzd\u011blance, kte\u0159&iacute; maj&iacute; n\u011bjak&yacute; bli\u017e&scaron;&iacute; vztah k t&eacute;matu,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">ke st\u0159edn&iacute; Evrop\u011b \u010di poch&aacute;zej&iacute; p\u016fvodn\u011b z \u010ceskoslovenska.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Z \u010cech je mezi zpov&iacute;dan&yacute;mi: cestovatel Martin Ry&scaron;av&yacute; \u010di b&yacute;val&yacute; ministr&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">obrany a velvyslanec v Rusku Lubo&scaron; Dobrovsk&yacute;, ze Spojen&yacute;ch&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">st&aacute;t\u016f americk&yacute;ch jsou to p&aacute;nov&eacute; Michael Kraus a Peter Steiner, ze&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">&Scaron;v&yacute;carska Tom&aacute;&scaron; Glanc, z Velk&eacute; Brit&aacute;nie Ji\u0159&iacute; P\u0159&iacute;b&aacute;\u0148, z N\u011bmecka&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Petr Robej&scaron;ek, z Belgie Jan Rube&scaron;, z Francie Jacques Rupnik atd.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><br \/><em><strong>Domn&iacute;v&aacute;te se, \u017ee na kni\u017en&iacute;m trhu by publikac&iacute; t&yacute;kaj&iacute;c&iacute;ch se uprchlick&eacute;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/span><em><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">krize m\u011blo b&yacute;t v&iacute;ce?<\/span><\/strong><\/em><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Jist\u011b by to bylo dob\u0159e, proto\u017ee i tato kniha ukazuje, jak je mo\u017en&eacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">se na kl&iacute;\u010dov&eacute; ud&aacute;losti roku 2015 d&iacute;vat jinak, ne\u017e \u010din&iacute;me v\u011bt&scaron;inou&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">my doma. Evropa je ji\u017e d&aacute;vno hodn\u011b prom&iacute;chan&aacute;, a proto se tam&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">prom\u011bnila biologick&aacute; xenofobie v kulturn&iacute;, co\u017e je jin&yacute; fenom&eacute;n.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">My se je&scaron;t\u011b boj&iacute;me v&scaron;eho ciz&iacute;ho, kde\u017eto oni jen t\u011bch, kte\u0159&iacute; necht\u011bj&iacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">pracovat a neu\u010d&iacute; se jazyk.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Pokud n&aacute;m nedojde, \u017ee heterogenn&iacute; spole\u010dnosti jsou siln\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; ne\u017e&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">homogenn&iacute;, budeme zaost&aacute;vat, nebudeme konkurenceschopn&iacute;,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">nadan&iacute; lid&eacute; budou od n&aacute;s odch&aacute;zet a bez p\u0159ist\u011bhovalc\u016f neudr\u017e&iacute;me<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">ani soci&aacute;ln&iacute; syst&eacute;my.<br \/><\/span><br \/><em><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Jak se podle v&aacute;s bude vyv&iacute;jet situace s uprchl&iacute;ky v Evrop\u011b? Troufnete&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">si to odhadnout?<\/span><\/strong><\/em><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">V dob\u011b tzv. glob&aacute;ln&iacute;ch &scaron;ach\u016f, kdy &scaron;achovnice m&aacute; nekone\u010dn\u011b&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">pol&iacute;\u010dek a tah na jedn&eacute; stran\u011b &scaron;achovnice m\u016f\u017ee v&eacute;st k ne\u010dekan&yacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">n&aacute;sledk\u016fm na druh&eacute;m konci planety, je ka\u017ed&aacute; p\u0159edpov\u011b\u010f velice&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">o&scaron;idn&aacute;. Ale pokud budeme schopn&iacute; uhl&iacute;dat vn\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; hranice EU,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">p\u0159&iacute;val cizinc\u016f bude pod kontrolou a pr&aacute;vo na azyl budou m&iacute;t jen&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">ti, co jsou skute\u010dn\u011b v ohro\u017een&iacute;, nemusel by to b&yacute;t nep\u0159ekonateln&yacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">probl&eacute;m. Jeden a p\u016fl milionu b\u011b\u017eenc\u016f nen&iacute; tak velk&eacute; \u010d&iacute;slo, kter&eacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">bychom nemohli zvl&aacute;dnout. Jak se lze v knize do\u010d&iacute;st: v EU \u017eije 500&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">milion\u016f lid&iacute;, v USA 300 milion\u016f a neleg&aacute;ln&iacute;ch b\u011b\u017eenc\u016f tam \u017eije&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">asi 12 milion\u016f a ned\u011blaj&iacute; z toho velkou trag&eacute;dii.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><br \/><strong><em>Va&scaron;&iacute; parketou je zejm&eacute;na interview a esej. Beletrie v&aacute;s tolik nel&aacute;k&aacute;?<\/em><\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Ale l&aacute;k&aacute;, jen pr&oacute;zy ode mne nikdo nechce. Ned&aacute;vno mi jeden&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">nakladatel \u0159ekl, \u017ee z&aacute;jem o n\u011b by mohl b&yacute;t a\u017e po m&eacute; smrti. Kdy\u017e se&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">\u010dlov\u011bk etabluje v n\u011bjak&eacute; profesi v jist&eacute;m \u017e&aacute;nru, je t\u011b\u017ek&eacute; ho p\u0159esadit.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Podobn\u011b je to u herc\u016f: ten, kdo je pova\u017eov&aacute;n za komika, t\u011b\u017eko&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">dostane charaktern&iacute; roli v trag&eacute;dii.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Na jak&eacute; knize pracujete nyn&iacute;?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Pracuji pro Gal&eacute;n s Ji\u0159&iacute;m Such&yacute;m na knize k jeho bl&iacute;\u017e&iacute;c&iacute;m se&nbsp;85. narozenin&aacute;m a nakladatel Zdenko Pavelka si ode mne objednal&nbsp;po v&yacute;boru Osm&yacute; den t&yacute;dne dal&scaron;&iacute; knihu fejeton\u016f.<\/p>\n<p>Text: Kate\u0159ina \u017d&iacute;dkov&aacute;<br \/>Foto: Jan Mal&yacute; ml.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>S \u010desk\u00fdm novin\u00e1\u0159em a esejistou Karlem Hv\u00ed\u017e\u010falou jsme si pov\u00eddali nejen o jeho nov\u00e9 knize.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":329276,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-329275","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329275","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=329275"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329275\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/329276"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=329275"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=329275"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=329275"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}