{"id":329211,"date":"2016-03-18T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-03-17T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/vladimira-sevelu-prekvapilo-tezke-detstvi-karla-kochera\/"},"modified":"2016-03-18T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-03-17T23:00:00","slug":"vladimira-sevelu-prekvapilo-tezke-detstvi-karla-kochera","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/vladimira-sevelu-prekvapilo-tezke-detstvi-karla-kochera\/","title":{"rendered":"Vladim\u00edra \u0160evelu p\u0159ekvapilo t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 d\u011btstv\u00ed Karla K\u00f6chera"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-right: 10px; margin-left: 10px; float: right;\" src=\"\/content\/images\/uploaded\/sevela.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"215\" height=\"243\" title=\"\">Novin&aacute;\u0159 <span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong>Vladim&iacute;r &Scaron;evela<\/strong><\/span> je autorem knihy <span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong><a href=\"\/cesky-krtek-v-cia\"><span style=\"color: #003d7c;\">\u010cesk&yacute; krtek v CIA<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/span>&nbsp;s podn&aacute;zvem Cesta Karla K&ouml;chra z STB p\u0159es americk&eacute; tajn&eacute; slu\u017eby do Prognostick&eacute;ho &uacute;stavu. V &uacute;noru ji p\u0159edstavil v Dom\u011b knihy.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><br \/><span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong>Vladim&iacute;r &Scaron;evela<\/strong><\/span> je \u010desk&yacute; novin&aacute;\u0159 a report&eacute;r, po maturit\u011b u\u010dil ve zvl&aacute;&scaron;tn&iacute; &scaron;kole ve M&scaron;en\u011b u M\u011bln&iacute;ka. Pot&eacute; vystudoval \u010de&scaron;tinu a n\u011bm\u010dinu na pra\u017esk&eacute; filozofick&eacute; fakult\u011b, pracoval jako jazykov&yacute; redaktor v Lidov&yacute;ch novin&aacute;ch, pobyl rok v New Yorku, odkud pos&iacute;lal \u010dl&aacute;nky do r\u016fzn&yacute;ch \u010desk&yacute;ch novin a po n&aacute;vratu se za\u010dal \u017eivit jako novin&aacute;\u0159 na pln&yacute; &uacute;vazek. Pro&scaron;el redakcemi Mlad&eacute; fronty Dnes, Lidov&yacute;ch novin, Respektu a T&yacute;dne.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #003d7c;\"><strong>Karel K&ouml;cher<\/strong><\/span> je jedin&yacute;m &scaron;pionem n\u011bkdej&scaron;&iacute;ho v&yacute;chodn&iacute;ho bloku a pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b i jedin&yacute;m zahrani\u010dn&iacute;m agentem v\u016fbec, kter&eacute;mu se poda\u0159ilo proniknout do CIA. Jeho kontroverzn&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh nebyl v \u010desk&eacute; literatu\u0159e faktu dosud pops&aacute;n. K&ouml;cher byl vysazen do USA v roce 1965 se zd&aacute;nliv\u011b nesplniteln&yacute;m &uacute;kolem infiltrovat se do americk&yacute;ch zpravodajsk&yacute;ch slu\u017eeb. Kniha vznikla na z&aacute;klad\u011b mnoha rozhovor\u016f autora s Karlem K&ouml;cherem, kter&yacute; souhlasil s neautorizovan&yacute;m &bdquo;\u017eivotopisem&ldquo;. Autor vyrazil do USA po &scaron;pionov&yacute;ch stop&aacute;ch, v Rusku nav&aacute;zal kontakt s d\u016fstojn&iacute;kem KGB, kter&yacute; ho m\u011bl na starosti.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>D&aacute; se v\u016fbec udr\u017eet emocion&aacute;ln&iacute; odstup od takov&eacute;to kontroverzn&iacute; l&aacute;tky?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Ten odstup tam je. Nakonec to dopadlo tak, \u017ee odstup byl tak velk&yacute;, \u017ee kdy\u017e si knihu pan K&ouml;cher p\u0159e\u010detl, tak se mnou p\u0159estal komunikovat. Nem\u011bl to b&yacute;t \u017e&aacute;dn&yacute; oslavn&yacute; text. Nakonec vznikl objektivn&iacute; text.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Z textu je zn&aacute;t, \u017ee to nen&iacute; \u017e&aacute;dn&aacute; nen&aacute;vistn&aacute; snaha. Pan K&ouml;cher z toho tedy nad&scaron;en nen&iacute; a kontakt u\u017e spolu tak&eacute; nem&aacute;te?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>V sou\u010dasnosti ne, uvid&iacute;me, jak to bude do budoucna.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Jak jste se p\u0159ipravoval na sch\u016fzky?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>D\u016fle\u017eit&aacute; byla ta prvn&iacute; sch\u016fzka. V\u011bd\u011bl jsem, \u017ee jej oslovili asi po osmn&aacute;cti letech \u017eivota v USA d\u016fstojn&iacute;ci FBI a CIA, kdy\u017e zjistili, \u017ee je &scaron;pi&oacute;n. A na toto se tehdy p\u0159ipravovaly des&iacute;tky lid&iacute;. J&aacute; jsem na to byl s&aacute;m. Nejprve on s&aacute;m vypr&aacute;v\u011bl sv&eacute; p\u0159&iacute;hody, nepokl&aacute;dal jsem mu t&eacute;m\u011b\u0159 \u017e&aacute;dn&eacute; ot&aacute;zky. <\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Jak&eacute; vlastnosti ud\u011blaly z pana K&ouml;chera tak &uacute;sp\u011b&scaron;n&eacute;ho &scaron;pi&oacute;na?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Ur\u010dit\u011b tah na branku, je to velice inteligentn&iacute; a c&iacute;lev\u011bdom&yacute; \u010dlov\u011bk. Je vzd\u011blan&yacute;, m&aacute; smysl pro dobrodru\u017estv&iacute; a cht\u011bl ud\u011blat d&iacute;ru do sv\u011bta. <\/p>\n<p><em><strong>V jedn&eacute; z &uacute;vodn&iacute;ch kapitol zmi\u0148ujete, \u017ee v d\u011btstv&iacute; cht\u011bl b&yacute;t slavn&yacute;. Mn\u011b to nep\u0159ipad&aacute; jako ide&aacute;ln&iacute; vlastnost pro &scaron;pi&oacute;na, nen&iacute; to tak?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Kdy\u017e ho odhalili, tak v\u011bt&scaron;ina lid&iacute; byla v &scaron;oku. Nem\u011bl vlastnosti, kter&eacute; by odpov&iacute;daly t&eacute; profesi. H&aacute;dal se s lidmi, byl n&aacute;padn&yacute;, u\u017e&iacute;val si \u017eivota, kupoval si drah&aacute; auta, chodil do erotick&yacute;ch klub\u016f. J&aacute; jsem se ho ptal, pro\u010d na sebe poutal pozornost a na to mi odpov\u011bd\u011bl, \u017ee pr&aacute;v\u011b proto, \u017ee by to nikdo neo\u010dek&aacute;val. <\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Mysl&iacute;te si, \u017ee je mo\u017en&eacute; po letech vysledovat motivace jeho \u010din\u016f?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>On s&aacute;m vypr&aacute;v\u011bl o sv&eacute;m t\u011b\u017ek&eacute;m d\u011btstv&iacute;. To m\u011b p\u0159ekvapilo. M\u011bl velice napjat&yacute; vztah s otcem, ani s matkou si moc nerozum\u011bl. Tento komplex se linul cel&yacute;m jeho \u017eivotem. V CIA dostal pr&aacute;ci, kter&aacute; mu p\u0159i&scaron;la pod\u0159adn&aacute;. V tu dobu to zjistila i KGB, m\u011bla o n\u011bj z&aacute;jem a to ho nabilo energi&iacute;.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Setkal jste se s negativn&iacute;mi reakcemi, \u017ee jste si pro psan&iacute; vybral takovou kontroverzn&iacute; osobnost?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Pouze jeden \u010dlov\u011bk z &uacute;stavu pro studium totalitn&iacute;ch re\u017eim\u016f \u0159ekl, \u017ee tato kniha nem\u011bla vyj&iacute;t. To byla snad jedin&aacute; negativn&iacute; reakce. Jinak na&scaron;t\u011bst&iacute; ne.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Vy s&aacute;m jste spolupracoval na sc&eacute;n&aacute;\u0159i dokumentu o Karlu K&ouml;cherovi. Jak prob&iacute;hala spolupr&aacute;ce s panem V&aacute;gnerem?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Kdy\u017e jsem u\u017e asi t\u0159i roky pracoval na t&eacute;to knize, ozvali se mi lid&eacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; pracovali na dokumentu na stejn&eacute; t&eacute;ma. Se&scaron;li jsme se. Domluvili jsme se, \u017ee budeme pracovat spole\u010dn\u011b, i kdy\u017e ka\u017ed&yacute; tro&scaron;ku jinak. Dokument u\u017e je ve fin&aacute;ln&iacute; f&aacute;zi, byl prom&iacute;t&aacute;n na festivalu v Jihlav\u011b, kde pan K&ouml;cher p\u0159ijel a \u017e&aacute;dal zastaven&iacute; tohoto dokumentu. Nel&iacute;bilo se mu, \u017ee tam byla \u0159e\u010d o jeho sexu&aacute;ln&iacute;ch eskap&aacute;d&aacute;ch v USA, kde chodil na swingers p&aacute;rty i se svou \u017eenou.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Va&scaron;e kniha m&aacute; v popisu, \u017ee je to neautorizovan&yacute; \u017eivotopis, m\u016f\u017eete n&aacute;m to trochu vysv\u011btlit?<\/em><\/strong><br \/>Jsou zde dv\u011b mo\u017enosti. Bu\u010f ten autor nespln&iacute; po\u017eadavek toho zpov&iacute;dan&eacute;ho a vyd&aacute; to v neautorizovan&eacute; podob\u011b. Nebo ten zpov&iacute;dan&yacute; na t&eacute; autorizaci netrv&aacute;, co\u017e je m\u016fj p\u0159&iacute;pad. A to m\u011b p\u0159ekvapilo. Kdybych mu to dal p\u0159e\u010d&iacute;st p\u0159ed vyd&aacute;n&iacute;m, tak ani nev&iacute;m, jestli by to vy&scaron;lo. <\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Vy jste ned&aacute;vno \u0159ekl, \u017ee v&aacute;m chyb&iacute; informace. Jsou to informace z arch&iacute;vu KGB, kde je ta kone\u010dn&aacute; pravda?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>Ur\u010dit&eacute; informace chyb&iacute; a m&aacute;m obavu, \u017ee se neotev\u0159ou nikdy. <br \/><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Novin\u00e1\u0159 Vladim\u00edr \u0160evela je autorem knihy \u010cesk\u00fd krtek v CIA s podn\u00e1zvem Cesta Karla K\u00f6chra z STB p\u0159es americk\u00e9 tajn\u00e9 slu\u017eby do Prognostick\u00e9ho \u00fastavu. 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