{"id":328997,"date":"2015-05-01T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-04-30T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/patrik-hartl-pokazde-kdyz-pisu-zamiluju-se-do-postav-jejichz-zivoty-vymyslim\/"},"modified":"2015-05-01T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-04-30T22:00:00","slug":"patrik-hartl-pokazde-kdyz-pisu-zamiluju-se-do-postav-jejichz-zivoty-vymyslim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/patrik-hartl-pokazde-kdyz-pisu-zamiluju-se-do-postav-jejichz-zivoty-vymyslim\/","title":{"rendered":"Patrik Hartl: Poka\u017ed\u00e9, kdy\u017e p\u00ed\u0161u, zamiluju se do postav, jejich\u017e \u017eivoty vym\u00fd\u0161l\u00edm"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Za t&iacute;m, \u017ee jste se stal spisovatelem, stoj&iacute; tak trochu v&aacute;&scaron; &scaron;vagr. Je to tak? Jak to tehdy bylo s n&aacute;padem napsat rom&aacute;n?<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Vystudoval jsem filmovou re\u017eii. Na FAMU jsem si psal sc&eacute;n&aacute;\u0159e ke sv&yacute;m film\u016fm, a kdy\u017e jsem v r&aacute;mci magistersk&eacute;ho studia chodil na semin&aacute;\u0159e na divadeln&iacute; fakultu, za\u010dal jsem taky ps&aacute;t divadeln&iacute; komedie. Pak jsem se sezn&aacute;mil s producentem Michalem Hrub&yacute;m, zalo\u017eili jsme divadlo Studio DVA a divadeln&iacute; texty se staly m&yacute;m hlavn&iacute;m autorsk&yacute;m z&aacute;jmem. Hned od za\u010d&aacute;tku mi d\u011blalo ohromnou radost, kdy\u017e se div&aacute;ci sm&aacute;li. C&iacute;til jsem stra&scaron;n\u011b p\u0159&iacute;jemnou soun&aacute;le\u017eitost. V\u0159elost, porozum\u011bn&iacute; a jedine\u010dnost spole\u010dn\u011b sd&iacute;len&yacute;ch okam\u017eik\u016f. Kv\u016fli touze po t\u011bch vz&aacute;cn&yacute;ch chv&iacute;l&iacute;ch souzn\u011bn&iacute; s div&aacute;ky jsem za\u010d&iacute;nal ps&aacute;t \u010d&iacute;m d&aacute;l \u010dast\u011bji. Postupn\u011b jsem p\u0159estal re\u017e&iacute;rovat ciz&iacute; divadeln&iacute; texty a te\u010f re\u017e&iacute;ruju u\u017e jen ty svoje, abych zbyl&yacute; \u010das mohl v\u011bnovat vym&yacute;&scaron;len&iacute; nov&yacute;ch p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh\u016f. Ohromn\u011b m\u011b to bav&iacute;. Zlom pak nastal p\u0159ed t\u0159emi lety, kdy jsem &scaron;vagrovi \u0159&iacute;kal, \u017ee p&iacute;&scaron;u filmov&yacute; sc&eacute;n&aacute;\u0159, a on mi navrhnul, jestli tu l&aacute;tku nechci sp&iacute;&scaron; napsat jako kn&iacute;\u017eku. Ivan toti\u017e miluje kn&iacute;\u017eky a zalo\u017eil pr&aacute;v\u011b vydavatelstv&iacute; Bourdon. Nikdy do t&eacute; doby jsem kn&iacute;\u017eky nepsal a pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b bych bez tohoto impulzu ani neza\u010dal. Ale zkusil jsem napsat prvn&iacute; kapitolu a nadchlo m\u011b to. &Uacute;pln\u011b m\u011b to pohltilo, proto\u017ee jsem uc&iacute;til neomezen&eacute; mo\u017enosti, kter&eacute; mi psan&iacute; rom&aacute;nu nab&iacute;z&iacute;. A rovnou jsem tomu propadl. Na&scaron;et\u0159il jsem si d&iacute;ky re\u017e&iacute;rov&aacute;n&iacute; televizn&iacute;ho seri&aacute;lu na to, abych mohl n\u011bkolik m\u011bs&iacute;c\u016f soust\u0159ed\u011bn\u011b ps&aacute;t, po prvn&iacute; kn&iacute;\u017ece jsem rovnou napsal druhou a z psan&iacute; beletrie se pro m\u011b stala priorita. &Uacute;pln\u011b nekontrolovan\u011b m\u011b to vcuclo.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Jak&yacute; je rozd&iacute;l mezi psan&iacute;m sc&eacute;n&aacute;\u0159e ke h\u0159e \u010di filmu a psan&iacute;m knihy?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Z&aacute;sadn&iacute;. Divadeln&iacute; texty i filmov&eacute; sc&eacute;n&aacute;\u0159e jsou determinov&aacute;ny jak dramatick&yacute;mi pravidly, tak i realiza\u010dn&iacute;mi mo\u017enostmi. Dikt&aacute;t dramatick&yacute;ch pravidel je ne&uacute;prosn&yacute;. Nap\u0159&iacute;klad nic, co d\u011bj rozm\u011bl\u0148uje nebo vytv&aacute;\u0159&iacute; slep&eacute; d\u011bjov&eacute; uli\u010dky, nen&iacute; akceptovateln&eacute;. Pokud autor nerespektuje z&aacute;konitosti psan&iacute; dramatick&eacute;ho textu, div&aacute;ci jeho n&aacute;pady nep\u0159ijmou. Prost\u011b se za\u010dnou nudit. A kdy\u017e si autor vymysl&iacute; nap\u0159&iacute;klad fantastick&yacute; filmov&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh o dvou astronautech na M\u011bs&iacute;ci, pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b ho kv\u016fli finan\u010dn&iacute; n&aacute;ro\u010dnosti nikdy nenato\u010d&iacute;. Pokud ov&scaron;em p&iacute;&scaron;ete kn&iacute;\u017eku, m\u016f\u017eete si dovolit prakticky cokoliv. Form&aacute;ln\u011b i obsahov\u011b. V&scaron;e je dovoleno, \u017e&aacute;dn&aacute; omezen&iacute; v&aacute;s nesv&iacute;raj&iacute;. S chut&iacute; vypr&aacute;v&iacute;m p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhy, kter&eacute; maj&iacute; spoustu drobn&yacute;ch mikrosituac&iacute;, odbo\u010dek, vsuvek a zaj&iacute;mav&yacute;ch okam\u017eik\u016f, kter&eacute; t\u0159eba nejsou d\u016fle\u017eit&eacute; pro hlavn&iacute; d\u011bj, ale osv\u011b\u017euj&iacute; ho ne\u010dekan&yacute;mi chut\u011bmi. A to si m\u016f\u017eu dovolit jen p\u0159i psan&iacute; rom&aacute;nu.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><strong>Maj&iacute; knihy Prvok, &Scaron;amp&oacute;n, Te\u010dka a Karel a Mal&yacute; pra\u017esk&yacute; erotikon n\u011bco spole\u010dn&eacute;ho?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">M&aacute;m r&aacute;d lidi. Mo\u017en&aacute; to zn&iacute; hloup\u011b, ale pr&aacute;v\u011b to maj&iacute; moje kn&iacute;\u017eky spole\u010dn&eacute;. A nem&aacute;m r&aacute;d nudu. A t\u011b&scaron;&iacute; m\u011b bavit \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e. A jsem netrp\u011bliv&yacute;. &Scaron;tve m\u011b, kdy\u017e se vypr&aacute;v\u011bn&iacute; vle\u010de. Tak\u017ee p&iacute;&scaron;u stru\u010dn\u011b.I kdy\u017e m&aacute; nakonec kn&iacute;\u017eka t\u0159eba \u010dty\u0159i sta stran. A nejrad&scaron;i m&aacute;m, kdy\u017e \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 zapomene, \u017ee mu vypr&aacute;v&iacute;m p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh, a m&aacute; pocit, \u017ee to, co \u010dte, se skute\u010dn\u011b stalo. Poka\u017ed&eacute;, kdy\u017e p&iacute;&scaron;u, zamiluju se do postav, jejich\u017e \u017eivoty vym&yacute;&scaron;l&iacute;m. A douf&aacute;m, \u017ee si je obl&iacute;b&iacute; i \u010dten&aacute;\u0159i. To maj&iacute; m&eacute; kn&iacute;\u017eky spole\u010dn&eacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">\u0158&iacute;k&aacute;te, \u017ee m&aacute;te r&aacute;d, kdy\u017e se lid&eacute; sm\u011bj&iacute;. V tomto duchu jsou va&scaron;eknihy naps&aacute;ny. Znamen&aacute; to, \u017ee do p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhu se &scaron;patn&yacute;m koncem byste se nepustil?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">V\u016fbec ne. Konec m\u016f\u017ee b&yacute;t klidn\u011b smutn&yacute;, ale d\u016fle\u017eit&eacute; je p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m to, jestli ten \u017eivot postav p\u0159ed n&iacute;m byl kr&aacute;sn&yacute;. Ka\u017ed&yacute; z n&aacute;s p\u0159ece um\u0159e. V&scaron;ichni to v&iacute;me a nikdo to nepova\u017euje za dobr&yacute; konec. A p\u0159esto milujeme \u017eivot. Navzdory tomu konci. P\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den&iacute;, \u017ee p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh se smutn&yacute;m koncem nem\u016f\u017ee b&yacute;t vtipn&yacute; a z&aacute;bavn&yacute;, je z&aacute;sadn&iacute;, a dost roz&scaron;&iacute;\u0159en&yacute; omyl.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">P\u0159ed dv\u011bma roky jste p\u0159eb\u011bhl Starom\u011bstsk&eacute; n&aacute;m\u011bst&iacute; nah&yacute;. Jak v&aacute;s to v\u016fbec napadlo?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Vyhecoval jsem se a pokusil se splnit jeden z &uacute;kol\u016f, kter&eacute; p\u0159ekon&aacute;vali kamar&aacute;di v m&eacute; kn&iacute;\u017ece Prvok, &Scaron;ampon, Te\u010dka a Karel. Ti si vymysleli hru s &uacute;koly, aby zjistili, jestli u\u017e je nese\u017erala krize st\u0159edn&iacute;ho v\u011bku. Cht\u011bli zjistit, jestli jsou je&scaron;t\u011b ve sv&yacute;ch hlav&aacute;ch pod za\u010d&iacute;naj&iacute;c&iacute;mi &scaron;edinami stejn\u011b mlad&iacute;, jako kdy\u017e maturovali a bavili se punkov&yacute;mi blbostmi. P\u0159i vym&yacute;&scaron;len&iacute; toho p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhu jsem se v&aacute;\u017en\u011b za\u010dal zab&yacute;vat my&scaron;lenkou, \u017ee bych m\u011bl jako autor taky s&aacute;m sebe otestovat. A postupn\u011b to ve mn\u011b hlodalo tak moc, a\u017e jsem zjistil, \u017ee jestli se nesvl&eacute;knu a nespln&iacute;m to, co jsem postav&aacute;m vymyslel, budu prost\u011b srab. A tak jsem to ud\u011blal. A za\u017eil jsem neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b siln&yacute; pocit euforie! Z toho, \u017ee jsem p\u0159ekonal sv&eacute; z&aacute;brany, porazil sv&eacute; ego a neb&aacute;l se chovat jako idiot. Zkuste to taky! Ke stejn&eacute;mu testu jsem na sv&eacute;m webu vyzval i v&scaron;echny \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e kn&iacute;\u017eky. Je to par&aacute;dn&iacute; osvobozuj&iacute;c&iacute; z&aacute;\u017eitek.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Pat\u0159&iacute; v&aacute;&scaron; rom&aacute;n Mal&yacute; pra\u017esk&yacute; erotikon do \u017e&aacute;nru erotick&eacute; literatury?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Mal&yacute; pra\u017esk&yacute; erotikon je p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m kn&iacute;\u017eka o l&aacute;sce. Ano, p\u0159izn&aacute;v&aacute;m, je v n&iacute; dost lechtiv&yacute;ch sc&eacute;n. A to p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m proto, \u017ee erotika prost\u011b k l&aacute;sce pat\u0159&iacute;. Mou snahou ale nebylo \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e eroticky vzru&scaron;ovat. Sna\u017e&iacute;m se je bavit. rotika v sob\u011b obsahuje choulostivou intimitu, okam\u017eiky odhalen&iacute;, zranitelnosti a k\u0159ehkosti. Je v n&iacute; spousta komick&eacute;ho potenci&aacute;lu. A ten jsem se sna\u017eil vyu\u017e&iacute;t. \u0158ekl bych, \u017ee Mal&yacute; pra\u017esk&yacute; erotikon je vlastn\u011b romantick&aacute; kn&iacute;\u017eka o lidech, kte\u0159&iacute; tou\u017e&iacute; po zamilovanosti a jejich touha je dost&aacute;v&aacute; n\u011bkdy do komick&yacute;ch a jindy do dojemn\u011b trpk&yacute;ch situac&iacute;. Mo\u017en&aacute; pat\u0159&iacute; do \u017e&aacute;nru erotick&eacute; literatury, ale rozhodn\u011b sp&iacute;&scaron; t&eacute; n\u011b\u017en&eacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Kdo pat\u0159&iacute; k va&scaron;im obl&iacute;ben&yacute;m spisovatel\u016fm?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">D\u0159&iacute;v to byli nap\u0159&iacute;klad Jorge Amado, Karel \u010capek, Dostojevskij, Bunin, Hemingway nebo \u010cechov. P\u0159izn&aacute;m se ale, \u017ee beletrii jsem naposledy \u010detl pod lavic&iacute; na gymn&aacute;ziu. U\u017e mnoho let vst\u0159eb&aacute;v&aacute;m jen literaturu faktu. Ka\u017ed&yacute; den toti\u017e s&aacute;m n\u011bco vym&yacute;&scaron;l&iacute;m a pot\u0159ebuju opustit sv\u011bt fikce a nas&aacute;vat n\u011bco z opravdov&eacute;ho sv\u011bta. Ze sou\u010dasn&yacute;ch \u010desk&yacute;ch autor\u016f m&aacute;m r&aacute;d t\u0159eba Karla Hv&iacute;\u017e\u010falu a jeho koncipovan&eacute; kni\u017en&iacute; rozhovory s r\u016fzn&yacute;mi zaj&iacute;mav&yacute;mi osobnostmi.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">A taky m\u011b bav&iacute; \u010d&iacute;st slovensk&eacute; fejetony Milana Lasici. A taky si r&aacute;d kn&iacute;\u017ekami jenom listuju. T\u0159eba monografiemi v&yacute;tvarn&iacute;k\u016f. Vlastn\u011b ka\u017ed&yacute; ve\u010der us&iacute;n&aacute;m nad n\u011bjakou kn&iacute;\u017ekou. Docela \u010dasto i b&aacute;snickou. Nap\u0159&iacute;klad Ji\u0159&iacute; \u017d&aacute;\u010dek psal v osmdes&aacute;t&yacute;ch letech n&aacute;dhern&eacute; b&aacute;sn\u011b, kter&eacute; jsou mi svou poetikou hodn\u011b bl&iacute;zk&eacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">M&aacute;te v pl&aacute;nu napsat dal&scaron;&iacute; knihu? Nebo u\u017e jste dokonce za\u010dal?<\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Ano, brzy za\u010dnu ps&aacute;t t\u0159et&iacute; rom&aacute;n. U\u017e se ve mn\u011b pomalu rod&iacute; a stra&scaron;n\u011b se na n\u011bj t\u011b&scaron;&iacute;m. T&eacute;ma je jasn&eacute; a kl&iacute;\u010d&iacute; u\u017e dlouho. A ned&aacute;vno jsem dostal i z&aacute;sadn&iacute; n&aacute;pad, jak ho zpracovat. Jestli to n\u011bjak nepokaz&iacute;m, bude z toho fantastick&aacute; kn&iacute;\u017eka. Ale nem\u016f\u017eu nic prozradit, proto\u017ee ten n&aacute;pad je tak dobr&yacute;, \u017ee opravdu nev&iacute;m, jestli ho dok&aacute;\u017eu zkrotit a neutopit se v n\u011bm. To je v\u017edycky hodn\u011b nap&iacute;nav&eacute; a nevypl&aacute;c&iacute; se moc chlubit je&scaron;t\u011b neulovenou ko\u0159ist&iacute;. Tak mi, pros&iacute;m, dr\u017ete palce!<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Text: Kate\u0159ina \u017d&iacute;dkov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">Foto: Lud\u011bk Pravda<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Olomouck\u00fd rod\u00e1k, um\u011bleck\u00fd \u0161\u00e9f pra\u017esk\u00e9ho divadla, scen\u00e1rista, re\u017eis\u00e9r a spisovatel Patrik Hartl m\u00e1 na sv\u00e9m kont\u011b dv\u011b knihy. A u\u017e te\u010f m\u00e1 n\u00e1pad na t\u0159et\u00ed. 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