{"id":328959,"date":"2021-03-04T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-03T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/jan-hnizdil-a-michal-triska-mezi-hospodou-a-nasi-knihou-je-velky-rozdil\/"},"modified":"2021-03-04T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2021-03-03T23:00:00","slug":"jan-hnizdil-a-michal-triska-mezi-hospodou-a-nasi-knihou-je-velky-rozdil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/jan-hnizdil-a-michal-triska-mezi-hospodou-a-nasi-knihou-je-velky-rozdil\/","title":{"rendered":"Jan Hn\u00edzdil a Michal T\u0159\u00edska: \u201eMezi hospodou a na\u0161\u00ed knihou je velk\u00fd rozd\u00edl.\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V knize<\/strong> <a title=\"V&scaron;ichni jsou psychopati, jenom j&aacute; jsem letadlo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.knihcentrum.cz\/vsichni-jsou-psychopati-jenom-ja-jsem-letadlo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span style=\"color: #1b3f75;\"><strong>V&scaron;ichni jsou psychopati, jenom j&aacute; jsem letadlo<\/strong><\/span><\/a> <strong>jste si vzali na pa&scaron;k&aacute;l na&scaron;e \u010deln&eacute; politiky. Neb&aacute;li jste se, \u017ee budete tak\u0159&iacute;kaj&iacute;c nosit sovy do At&eacute;n?<\/strong> <br \/>St\u011b\u017eov&aacute;n&iacute; si na politiky je p\u0159ece obl&iacute;benou discipl&iacute;nou nejen v \u010desk&yacute;ch hospod&aacute;ch. Domn&iacute;v&aacute;me se, \u017ee mezi hospodou a na&scaron;&iacute; knihou je velk&yacute; rozd&iacute;l. Nic proti hospod&aacute;m. \u010clov\u011bk si v nich zanad&aacute;v&aacute;, zanotuje s kump&aacute;ny, ulev&iacute; si. My nenad&aacute;v&aacute;me, my si nest\u011b\u017eujeme. Na&scaron;&iacute;m c&iacute;lem bylo, na rozd&iacute;l od v\u011bt&scaron;iny hospodsk&yacute;ch debat, dan&eacute; politiky pochopit. Pokusili jsme se seri&oacute;zn\u011b rozkl&iacute;\u010dovat skute\u010dn&eacute; d\u016fvody jejich \u010dasto zhoubn&eacute;ho chov&aacute;n&iacute;. Byla to analytick&aacute;, m&iacute;sty detektivn&iacute;, ale velmi zaj&iacute;mav&aacute; pr&aacute;ce. Pochopit \u010dlov\u011bka je toti\u017e ten nejjednodu&scaron;&scaron;&iacute; zp\u016fsob, jak eliminovat jeho jedn&aacute;n&iacute; anebo zefektivnit spolupr&aacute;ci s n&iacute;m. Na&scaron;e kniha nen&iacute; psan&aacute; stylem nem&aacute;me r&aacute;di Zemana, tak mu to te\u010f oslad&iacute;me. V\u016fbec ne. Sv&eacute; z&aacute;v\u011bry jsme d&aacute;vali do kontextu se z&aacute;v\u011bry v\u011bdc\u016f. V\u011bd\u011bli jsme, \u017ee by na&scaron;e kniha nest&aacute;la za nic, pokud bychom dali pr\u016fchod emoc&iacute;m. Tomu jsme se cht\u011bli za ka\u017edou cenu vyhnout.<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>P&iacute;&scaron;ete, \u017ee kdy\u017e jste se rozhodovali, jak&aacute; by m\u011bla kniha b&yacute;t, shodli jste se na tom, \u017ee p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m nep\u0159&iacute;jemn&aacute;. Pro\u010d?<\/strong> <br \/>Mo\u017en&aacute; to v dne&scaron;n&iacute; dob\u011b bude zn&iacute;t divn\u011b, ale cht\u011bli jsme naj&iacute;t pravdu. Pokud m&aacute;te n\u011bjak&yacute; osobn&iacute;, rodinn&yacute; \u010di n&aacute;rodn&iacute; probl&eacute;m a skute\u010dn\u011b ho chcete vy\u0159e&scaron;it, d\u0159&iacute;v nebo pozd\u011bji na nutnost b&yacute;t pravdiv&yacute; naraz&iacute;te. Bez pravdy, respektive bez touhy ji nal&eacute;zt, se prost\u011b d&aacute;l nepohnete. A ka\u017ed&eacute; pozn&aacute;v&aacute;n&iacute; je sv&yacute;m zp\u016fsobem nep\u0159&iacute;jemn&eacute;. Z&iacute;skan&eacute; &bdquo;objektivn&iacute;&ldquo; informace toti\u017e v\u017edy konfrontujete se &bdquo;svou&ldquo; pravdou, p\u0159edstavou, n&aacute;zorem, p\u0159&aacute;n&iacute;m. Na&scaron;e kniha hlad&iacute; proti srsti &ndash; politiky i \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e. Domn&iacute;v&aacute;me se, \u017ee mnoho lid&iacute; na&scaron;i knihu mo\u017en&aacute; ani nedo\u010dte. Ne proto, \u017ee by byla &scaron;patn&aacute;, ale proto\u017ee jim skrze pov&iacute;d&aacute;n&iacute; o psychopatech pokl&aacute;d&aacute;me ot&aacute;zky, na kter&eacute; se budou b&aacute;t sami sob\u011b odpov\u011bd\u011bt. Dalo by se \u0159&iacute;ct, \u017ee na&scaron;e kniha je takov&aacute; stezka odvahy.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Na ob&aacute;lce knihy je karikatura t\u0159&iacute; vrcholn&yacute;ch \u010desk&yacute;ch politik\u016f, na n\u011b\u017e se zam\u011b\u0159ujete&nbsp;i v samotn&eacute;m textu. Pro\u010d pr&aacute;v\u011b na n\u011b?<\/strong> <br \/>Zde je odpov\u011b\u010f jednoduch&aacute;. Proto\u017ee jsou podle na&scaron;eho n&aacute;zoru nejv&iacute;ce emo\u010dn\u011b posti\u017een&iacute;. Jsou nejv&iacute;c vid\u011bt a p&aacute;chaj&iacute; &ndash; nebo nap&aacute;chali &ndash; nejv&iacute;ce &scaron;kod.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Na jak&eacute; dal&scaron;&iacute; postavy politick&eacute; sc&eacute;ny by st&aacute;lo za to se pod&iacute;vat?<\/strong> <br \/>Zaj&iacute;mav&yacute;m &bdquo;studijn&iacute;m materi&aacute;lem&ldquo; by podle n&aacute;s mohli b&yacute;t t\u0159eba Tomio Okamura, V&aacute;clav Klaus mlad&scaron;&iacute;, Alena Schillerov&aacute; nebo t\u0159eba \u010dlen Rady \u010cesk&eacute; televize Lubo&scaron; Xaver Vesel&yacute;. Bylo by zaj&iacute;mav&eacute; prozkoumat vnit\u0159n&iacute; \u017eivot a emo\u010dn&iacute; z&aacute;zem&iacute; &uacute;sp\u011b&scaron;n&eacute;ho \u010dlov\u011bka, kter&yacute;, kdy\u017e mu d&aacute; doba p\u0159&iacute;le\u017eitost, za\u010dne ve sv&eacute; podstat\u011b ubli\u017eovat lidem. Tyto lidi jsme ale&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">nezkoumali. Jen se n&aacute;m z jejich chov&aacute;n&iacute; zd&aacute;, \u017ee by mohli b&yacute;t &bdquo;zkoum&aacute;n&iacute; hodni&ldquo;.<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u010c&iacute;m to je, \u017ee se lid&eacute; s tak pochybn&yacute;mi psychologick&yacute;mi profily prodrali do prominentn&iacute;ch politick&yacute;ch pozic?<\/strong> <br \/>Tito lid&eacute; jsou abnorm&aacute;ln\u011b emo\u010dn\u011b zran\u011bn&iacute;, charakterov\u011b zmrza\u010den&iacute;, a tento hendikep je ve sv\u011bt\u011b politiky paradoxn\u011b extr&eacute;mn\u011b zv&yacute;hod\u0148uje. Nevad&iacute; jim &bdquo;chodit p\u0159es mrtvoly&ldquo;, proto se snadn\u011bji dost&aacute;vaj&iacute; do vysok&yacute;ch pozic,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a kdy\u017e jich dos&aacute;hnou, kdy\u017e z&iacute;skaj&iacute; moc, tak se jim jejich osobn&iacute; a \u010dasto celo\u017eivotn&iacute; probl&eacute;m doslova vymkne z ruky. Neum\u011bj&iacute; se ovl&aacute;dat,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a vlastn\u011b ani necht\u011bj&iacute;, proto\u017ee jim jejich chov&aacute;n&iacute; p\u0159in&aacute;&scaron;&iacute; emo\u010dn&iacute; uspokojen&iacute;. Mluv&iacute;me zde o emo\u010dn&iacute;m nastaven&iacute; jejich \u017eivota. O tom, zda budou sv&eacute;mu okol&iacute; pom&aacute;hat nebo &scaron;kodit.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">O tom v&scaron;em se \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 v knize do\u010dte.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak se vl&aacute;da takov&yacute;ch lid&iacute; m\u016f\u017ee podepsat na n&aacute;s samotn&yacute;ch?<\/strong> <br \/>Zde bychom si dovolili odpov\u011bd\u011bt ot&aacute;zkou. Co se stane, kdy\u017e d&aacute;te do jedn&eacute; bedny k chutn&eacute;mu a zdrav&eacute;mu masu maso zka\u017een&eacute;? Mysl&iacute;te si, \u017ee se zka\u017een&eacute; maso uzdrav&iacute;? <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><strong>V knize popisujete i jak&eacute;si archetyp&aacute;ln&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhy lid&iacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; podlehli kouzlu politika, jen\u017e jde proti proudu. Mysl&iacute;te si, \u017ee va&scaron;e kniha m\u016f\u017ee oslovit i \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e s podobnou zku&scaron;enost&iacute;?<\/strong> <br \/>Byli bychom velmi r&aacute;di, ale zase na druhou stranu bu\u010fme realist&eacute;. Lid&eacute;, kte\u0159&iacute; podlehli &bdquo;kouzlu politika&ldquo;, mu podlehli emo\u010dn\u011b. Na tom nen&iacute; nic &scaron;patn&eacute;ho. V&scaron;ichni emo\u010dn\u011b podl&eacute;h&aacute;me. Druh&eacute;mu pohlav&iacute;, d\u011btem, slib\u016fm. Na pov&aacute;\u017eenou to v&scaron;ak za\u010d&iacute;n&aacute; b&yacute;t, kdy\u017e v&aacute;s doty\u010dn&yacute; politik vede do pekel, za\u010d&iacute;naj&iacute; v&aacute;m ho\u0159et&nbsp;tkani\u010dky u bot a vy mu st&aacute;le tlesk&aacute;te. Na&scaron;e kniha vy\u017eaduje od \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e odvahu. Skute\u010dn\u011b. Nen&iacute; to fr&aacute;ze. Ne odvahu uk&aacute;zat na politika, ale odvahu uk&aacute;zat na sebe. Byli bychom r&aacute;di, kdybychom alespo\u0148 jednoho \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e k tomuto nadlidsk&eacute;mu &uacute;kolu p\u0159im\u011bli. Chceme v&eacute;st se \u010dten&aacute;\u0159em dialog, ale tak&eacute; chceme, aby ho vedl \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 s&aacute;m se sebou. Mo\u017en&aacute; jsme si ukousli velk&eacute; sousto, ale museli jsme to zkusit. Mysl&iacute;me si, \u017ee na&scaron;e kniha vzbud&iacute; siln&eacute; emoce. Sou\u010dasn\u011b v&scaron;ak o\u010dek&aacute;v&aacute;me, \u017ee se \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 nad t&iacute;m, co v knize \u0159&iacute;k&aacute;me, nakonec p\u0159ece jen zamysl&iacute;.<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Tvrd&iacute;te, \u017ee nechcete popisovan&eacute; politiky soudit, ale v prvn&iacute; \u0159ad\u011b pochopit. Povedlo se to?<\/strong> <br \/>Domn&iacute;v&aacute;me se, \u017ee ano. Chov&aacute;n&iacute; a rozhodov&aacute;n&iacute; dan&yacute;ch politik\u016f je pro n&aacute;s nyn&iacute; jasn\u011bj&scaron;&iacute;, \u010diteln\u011bj&scaron;&iacute;, de facto m&eacute;n\u011b stresuj&iacute;c&iacute;. V&iacute;me, na \u010dem jsme. Ale to je pouze n&aacute;&scaron; pohled na v\u011bc. Zda se n&aacute;m to povedlo, to a\u0165 laskav&yacute; \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 posoud&iacute; s&aacute;m.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Popisujete i to, jak lze poznat psychopata &bdquo;na d&aacute;lku&ldquo;, konkr&eacute;tn\u011b uv&aacute;d&iacute;te test francouzsk&eacute; psycholo\u017eky Isabelle Nazare-Aga. Skute\u010dn\u011b m\u016f\u017eeme poznat, \u017ee je n\u011bkdo psychopat, ani\u017e jej osobn\u011b pozn&aacute;me?<\/strong> <br \/>Na&scaron;&iacute;m z&aacute;m\u011brem nen&iacute; u\u010dit lidi sly&scaron;et v&scaron;ude tr&aacute;vu r\u016fst, v ka\u017ed&eacute;m hledat a nach&aacute;zet psychopata. Vyz&yacute;v&aacute;me \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e, aby v&iacute;ce st&aacute;li nohama na zemi, v&iacute;ce se ptali, v&iacute;ce pozorovali, v&iacute;ce se zaj&iacute;mali o sebe. Ovl&aacute;dat tyto dovednosti se v\u017edy vyplat&iacute;. Zmi\u0148ovan&aacute; metoda funguje pr&aacute;v\u011b tehdy, jsme-li spojen&iacute; s na&scaron;&iacute; intuic&iacute;, rozumem, m&aacute;me-li pr&aacute;v\u011b tu odvahu.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">A jestli dok&aacute;\u017eeme na d&aacute;lku poznat, \u017ee je n\u011bkdo psychopat? S Donaldem Trumpem asi ni<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">kdo z n&aacute;s neve\u010de\u0159el. P\u0159esto mus&iacute;me c&iacute;tit, \u017ee ten \u010dlov\u011bk nen&iacute; v po\u0159&aacute;dku.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak&yacute; dopad m&aacute; na &bdquo;protagonisty&ldquo; va&scaron;&iacute; knihy sou\u010dasn&aacute; pandemick&aacute; situace?<\/strong> <br \/>Sou\u010dasn&eacute; d\u011bn&iacute; jen strh&aacute;v&aacute; rou&scaron;ku z jejich tv&aacute;\u0159&iacute;. Na rozd&iacute;l od p\u0159edvolebn&iacute;ch billboard\u016f vid&iacute;me vyd\u011b&scaron;en&eacute;, t\u011bkaj&iacute;c&iacute;, sebest\u0159edn&eacute;, krut&eacute; a bezmocn&eacute; d\u011bti. Mal&eacute; d&iacute;t\u011b chaos dne&scaron;n&iacute;ch dn\u016f sotva zvl&aacute;dne, naopak chaos samo vytv&aacute;\u0159&iacute;. Ve veden&iacute; zem\u011b by m\u011bli b&yacute;t lid&eacute; v prv&eacute; \u0159ad\u011b dosp\u011bl&iacute;, v prav&eacute; podstat\u011b toho slova. Vygenerovat takov&eacute; lidi do vedouc&iacute;ch pozic se na&scaron;&iacute; zemi bohu\u017eel dlouhodob\u011b neda\u0159&iacute;.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Neboj&iacute;te se, jak na va&scaron;i knihu budou politici,o nich\u017e p&iacute;&scaron;ete, reagovat &ndash; zvl&aacute;&scaron;\u0165 s p\u0159ihl&eacute;dnut&iacute;m k jejich &bdquo;diagn&oacute;ze&ldquo;?<\/strong> <br \/>Jedno v&iacute;me tak\u0159ka jist\u011b. Zkouman&iacute; politici se t&eacute;to knihy budou b&aacute;t jako \u010dert k\u0159&iacute;\u017ee, zcela ji vyt\u011bsn&iacute;, v\u016fbec se j&iacute; nedotknou. Budou ml\u010det, budou m&iacute;t strach.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Kry&scaron;tof Eder, foto: Michaela T\u0159&iacute;skov&aacute;, Jan Z&aacute;torsk&yacute;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jan Hn\u00edzdil je obl\u00edben\u00fdm autorem knih o celostn\u00ed medic\u00edn\u011b. Nyn\u00ed se vydal na o\u017eehavou p\u016fdu politiky. V knize V\u0161ichni jsou PSYCHOPATI, jenom j\u00e1 jsem letadlo, kterou Jan Hn\u00edzdil napsal spolu s Michalem T\u0159\u00edskou, najdou \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i psychologick\u00e9 profily p\u0159edn\u00edch \u010desk\u00fdch politik\u016f. \u010cetba je to obna\u017euj\u00edc\u00ed,  ale tak\u00e9 nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e1. Pro\u010d? 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