{"id":328322,"date":"2020-03-06T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-03-05T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/jana-strausova-a-jeji-deti-noveho-veku\/"},"modified":"2020-03-06T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2020-03-05T23:00:00","slug":"jana-strausova-a-jeji-deti-noveho-veku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/jana-strausova-a-jeji-deti-noveho-veku\/","title":{"rendered":"Jana \u0160trausov\u00e1 a jej\u00ed D\u011bti nov\u00e9ho v\u011bku"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Vzpom&iacute;n&aacute;te n\u011bkdy na va&scaron;e prvn&iacute; setk&aacute;n&iacute; se sv\u011b\u0159encem v mate\u0159sk&eacute; &scaron;kole, kter&yacute; v&aacute;m za\u010dal vypr&aacute;v\u011bt o sv&eacute;m minul&eacute;m \u017eivot\u011b?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To se ned&aacute; zapomenout. Jmenoval se Pavl&iacute;k a bylo mu necel&yacute;ch p\u011bt let. N\u011bkolik t&yacute;dn\u016f mi vypr&aacute;v\u011bl a kreslil sv\u016fj p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh o tom, jak se zabil v aut\u011b, &bdquo;kdy\u017e byl velkej&ldquo;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Nebyl s&aacute;m p\u0159ekvapen&yacute; z toho, co ho to napad&aacute;?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ne, byl naprosto up\u0159&iacute;mn&yacute; a ulevilo se mu, kdy\u017e zjistil, \u017ee mu nic z jeho vypr&aacute;v\u011bn&iacute; nebudu vymlouvat. Na n\u011bco takov&eacute;ho jsem p\u0159ipravena opravdu nebyla a nikdy p\u0159edt&iacute;m jsem nic tak konkr&eacute;tn&iacute;ho od \u017e&aacute;dn&eacute;ho d&iacute;t\u011bte nesly&scaron;ela. Jen\u017ee Pavl&iacute;k byl naprosto spont&aacute;nn&iacute; a jeho projev mal&eacute;ho d&iacute;t\u011bte byl tak bezelstn&yacute;, \u017ee pocity m&eacute;ho srdce byly siln\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; ne\u017e argumenty rozumu. Pavl&iacute;ka jsem m\u011bla ve t\u0159&iacute;d\u011b jen jeden rok, proto\u017ee se pr&aacute;v\u011b p\u0159ist\u011bhovali. Dal&scaron;&iacute; &scaron;koln&iacute; rok jsem dostala prvn&iacute; t\u0159&iacute;du, tedy novou generaci osmadvaceti d\u011bt&iacute; ve v\u011bku t\u0159i a\u017e \u010dty\u0159i roky. P\u0159ich&aacute;zely za mnou nez&aacute;visle a jejich v&yacute;pov\u011bdi jsem za\u010dala zaznamen&aacute;vat a kresby shroma\u017e\u010fovat. Tyto pozd\u011bji poslou\u017eily jako dokumentace k diplomov&eacute; pr&aacute;ci.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #dc812e;\"><strong>Neobvykl&yacute; v&yacute;zkum<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Nemohlo je k tomu t\u0159eba inspirovat rodinn&eacute; prost\u0159ed&iacute;, v&yacute;chova nebo n\u011bjak&yacute; po\u0159ad v televizi, n\u011b\u010d&iacute; zm&iacute;nka, nar&aacute;\u017eka?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To m\u011b napadlo hned taky. Po \u010dase mi bylo jasn&eacute;, \u017ee se setk&aacute;v&aacute;m s fenom&eacute;nem, kter&yacute; nen&iacute; nijak n&aacute;hodn&yacute; nebo n\u011bjak kolektivn\u011b vymy&scaron;len&yacute;, a tak jsem to pojala jako v&yacute;zkum. Jeho sou\u010d&aacute;st&iacute; byl dotazn&iacute;k pro rodi\u010de v&scaron;ech uveden&yacute;ch d\u011bt&iacute;, kter&yacute; jsem sestavila a v n\u011bm\u017e jsem mapovala celkovou rodinnou anamn&eacute;zu &ndash; pr\u016fb\u011bh t\u011bhotenstv&iacute; a porodu, v&yacute;voj d&iacute;t\u011bte od prenat&aacute;ln&iacute;ho obdob&iacute; a\u017e do sou\u010dasnosti, soci&aacute;ln&iacute; vztahy v rodin\u011b. Moje ot&aacute;zky pro rodi\u010de m\u011bly p\u0159in&eacute;st odpov\u011b\u010f na to, jak koresponduje chov&aacute;n&iacute; ve &scaron;kolce s chov&aacute;n&iacute;m a projevy d&iacute;t\u011bte doma. Zda to, co d&iacute;t\u011b vypr&aacute;v&iacute; a kresl&iacute;, nemohlo vid\u011bt v televizi, v n\u011bjak&eacute; h\u0159e, jestli si o n\u011b\u010dem podobn&eacute;m doma nepov&iacute;dali nebo se n\u011bco takov&eacute;ho neodehr&aacute;lo p\u0159&iacute;mo v rodin\u011b. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>A nemohla jste je n\u011bjak inspirovat vy sama?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Nikdy jsem neza\u010dala tohle t&eacute;ma otev&iacute;rat prvn&iacute;. V\u017edycky jsem reagovala a\u017e na to, co mi d\u011bti samy pov\u011bd\u011bly. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kolik d\u011bt&iacute; s podobn&yacute;mi vzpom&iacute;nkami jste poznala?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">M\u016fj v&yacute;zkum trval p\u011bt let a v knize je celkem t\u0159icet zdokumentovan&yacute;ch v&yacute;pov\u011bd&iacute;. D\u011bt&iacute; s podobn&yacute;mi vzpom&iacute;nkami jsem poznala v&iacute;c, ale ne v&scaron;echny v&yacute;pov\u011bdi jsem si zapsala a n\u011bkter&eacute; jsem nikdy a nikde neuvedla, proto\u017ee mi to tak p\u0159i&scaron;lo vhodn\u011bj&scaron;&iacute;. Byly to okam\u017eiky ne p\u0159&iacute;li&scaron; dlouh&yacute;ch rozhovor\u016f mezi moj&iacute; du&scaron;&iacute; a du&scaron;&iacute; d&iacute;t\u011bte, kter&eacute; z\u016fstaly jako mil&aacute; vzpom&iacute;nka jen v m&eacute;m srdci. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Byly si d\u011bti v n\u011b\u010dem podobn&eacute;? Nebo byly dokonce v n\u011b\u010dem stejn&eacute;?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ne, ka\u017ed&eacute; d&iacute;t\u011b bylo jin&eacute;. N\u011bkter&eacute; byly extrovertn&iacute;, jin&eacute; introverti, m\u011bly r\u016fzn&eacute; povahy, chov&aacute;n&iacute; i projevy. Stejn&eacute; byly pouze v tom, \u017ee byly naprosto p\u0159irozen&eacute;, up\u0159&iacute;mn&eacute; a autentick&eacute;.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V jak&eacute;m momentu v&aacute;s napadlo ud\u011blat na toto t&eacute;ma magisterskou pr&aacute;ci na Pedagogick&eacute; fakult\u011b UK?<\/strong> <br \/>Pavl&iacute;k ve mn\u011b zasadil sem&iacute;nko t&eacute;matu, a jakmile d\u011bt&iacute; za\u010dalo p\u0159ib&yacute;vat, bylo uvnit\u0159 m\u011b rozhodnuto. Byla jsem p\u0159ipravena na to, \u017ee to nebude snadn&aacute; cesta, ale jin&eacute; t&eacute;ma pro mne u\u017e nep\u0159ich&aacute;zelo v &uacute;vahu. Vybrala jsem si okruh, do kter&eacute;ho se moje t&eacute;ma hodilo: Respektov&aacute;n&iacute; v&yacute;vojov&yacute;ch specifik v sou\u010dasn&eacute; mate\u0159sk&eacute; &scaron;kole.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Marxismus jsme form&aacute;ln\u011b opustili, ale materialismus ovl&aacute;d&aacute; na&scaron;i dobu v mnoha aspek\u2011 tech velice siln\u011b. Vy jste ale p\u0159i&scaron;la s n\u011b\u010d&iacute;m ryze duchovn&iacute;m. Co na to \u0159&iacute;kal v&aacute;&scaron; oponent?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Moje zku&scaron;enosti s p\u0159ed&scaron;koln&iacute;mi d\u011btmi byly opa\u010dn&eacute;, ne\u017e uv&aacute;d&iacute; v\u011bt&scaron;ina u\u010debnic v&yacute;vojov&eacute; psychologie. Na tom a sv&yacute;ch osobn&iacute;ch pro\u017eitc&iacute;ch s d\u011btmi a v&yacute;sledc&iacute;ch sv&eacute;ho v&yacute;zkumu jsem postavila svou obhajobu. M&yacute;m oponentem byla vyu\u010duj&iacute;c&iacute; z katedry psychologie. Oponent poch&aacute;z&iacute; od slova oponovat, tedy jeho &uacute;kolem je vyvr&aacute;tit a zpochybnit va&scaron;e hypot&eacute;zy nebo tvrzen&iacute;. V&aacute;&scaron; &uacute;kol naopak je si sv\u016fj v&yacute;zkum a sv&eacute; argumenty obh&aacute;jit, co\u017e se mi poda\u0159ilo.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #dc812e;\">P\u0159&iacute;b\u011bhy z d&aacute;vn&yacute;ch dob<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kter&yacute; z d\u011btsk&yacute;ch p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh\u016f v&aacute;s zaujal nejv&iacute;c?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ka\u017ed&yacute; byl pro mne obohacen&iacute;m a ka\u017ed&yacute; m\u011bl v sob\u011b kousek odkryt&eacute;ho z&aacute;voje do m&iacute;st, kam nen&iacute; b\u011b\u017en&eacute; se pod&iacute;vat. Zaujaly mne v&scaron;echny a netrouf&aacute;m si je porovn&aacute;vat. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Objevovaly se v nich n\u011bjak&eacute; konkr&eacute;tn&iacute; historick&eacute; postavy nebo fakta, ud&aacute;losti?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Byla to vypr&aacute;v\u011bn&iacute; d\u011bt&iacute; z doby Atlantidy, ze star&eacute;ho Egypta, z doby Alexandra Velik&eacute;ho, z bitvy u Kres\u010daku v roce 1346 nebo z pades&aacute;t&yacute;ch let 20. stolet&iacute;. D\u011bti, kter&eacute; mi to l&iacute;\u010dily, o n\u011b\u010dem podobn&eacute;m nikdy p\u0159edt&iacute;m nesly&scaron;ely a tak&eacute; detaily, kter&eacute; mi vypr&aacute;v\u011bly, nemohly m&iacute;t zprost\u0159edkovan&eacute; od rodi\u010d\u016f nebo z televize.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mohla byste n\u011bjakou z d\u011btsk&yacute;ch v&yacute;pov\u011bd&iacute; ozna\u010dit za d\u016fkaz? Dalajl&aacute;ma \u0159&iacute;k&aacute;: &bdquo;Ti, co po\u017eaduj&iacute; d\u016fkazy jev\u016f, stejn\u011b nejsou schopni je p\u0159ijmout jako pravdu, a\u0165 je jakkoliv pr\u016fkazn&aacute;&hellip;&ldquo; Toho, co lid&eacute; obvykle pova\u017euj&iacute; za d\u016fkazy, tam byla cel&aacute; \u0159ada, t\u0159eba V&iacute;tkovo vypr&aacute;v\u011bn&iacute; o tom, jak byl \u010desa\u010dem mangostanu. Ne\u017e jsem se s t&iacute;m klou\u010dkem potkala, tak jsem se sama s t&iacute;m slovem nikdy nesetkala.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V literatu\u0159e se opakuj&iacute; informace, \u017ee po p&aacute;t&eacute;m roce v\u011bku tyto vzpom&iacute;nky miz&iacute;. Je to opravdu tak?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ve v\u011bt&scaron;in\u011b p\u0159&iacute;pad\u016f ano. Jen n\u011bkter&yacute;m d\u011btem jejich roz&scaron;&iacute;\u0159en&eacute; v\u011bdom&iacute; z\u016fst&aacute;v&aacute; permanentn\u011b. Vid&iacute;m to na meditac&iacute;ch, kde m&aacute;m d\u011bti mezi &scaron;est&yacute;m a dvan&aacute;ct&yacute;m rokem. V klasick&eacute; &scaron;kole nen&iacute; pro tento duchovn&iacute; rozm\u011br ani m&iacute;sto, ani \u010das. N\u011bco podobn&eacute;ho nen&iacute; ani sou\u010d&aacute;st&iacute; &scaron;koln&iacute;ch osnov, a proto d\u011bl&aacute;m s d\u011btmi meditace, kter&eacute; jsou detailn\u011b pops&aacute;ny i v moj&iacute; knize. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #dc812e;\">D\u011bti nov&eacute;ho v\u011bku<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Va&scaron;e kniha D\u011bti nov&eacute;ho v\u011bku je u n&aacute;s prvn&iacute;m autentick&yacute;m sv\u011bdectv&iacute;m na toto t&eacute;ma. Nem\u011bla jste obavy, jak ji ve\u0159ejnost p\u0159ijme?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">D\u011bti jsou na&scaron;e budoucnost a obavy podle m&yacute;ch zku&scaron;enost&iacute; nejsou na m&iacute;st\u011b. Je to kniha o d\u011btech, kter&eacute; \u017eij&iacute; mezi n&aacute;mi. Ke ka\u017ed&eacute;mu z n&aacute;s p\u0159ich&aacute;zej&iacute; pouze ty informace, na kter&eacute; jsme p\u0159ipraveni. Neb&yacute;v&aacute; n&aacute;m odkryto nic, s \u010d&iacute;m bychom se nem\u011bli setkat. Na\u010dasov&aacute;n&iacute; je tedy pro ka\u017ed&eacute;ho \u010dten&aacute;\u0159e to nejlep&scaron;&iacute;. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><strong>Zn&aacute;te lidi s podobn&yacute;mi zku&scaron;enostmi?<\/strong> <br \/>St&aacute;le se mi oz&yacute;vaj&iacute; dal&scaron;&iacute; lid&eacute;, babi\u010dky, nebo t\u0159eba i u\u010ditelky mate\u0159sk&yacute;ch &scaron;kol, \u017ee maj&iacute; stejn&eacute; zku&scaron;enosti jako j&aacute;, jen se o tom boj&iacute; mluvit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>P\u0159in&aacute;&scaron;ej&iacute; d\u011bti ve va&scaron;&iacute; knize n\u011bjak&eacute; poselstv&iacute;?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">D\u011bti n&aacute;m p\u0159ich&aacute;zej&iacute; p\u0159ipomenout, \u017ee smrt&iacute; \u017eivot nekon\u010d&iacute;, a \u017ee kdy\u017e my n\u011bco nevid&iacute;me, neznamen&aacute; to je&scaron;t\u011b, \u017ee to neexistuje. Sv&yacute;m tich&yacute;m sv\u011bdectv&iacute;m n&aacute;m pom&aacute;haj&iacute; naslouchat sv&yacute;m vlastn&iacute;m pocit\u016fm a vr&aacute;tit se sami k sob\u011b, dom\u016f, do sv&eacute;ho srdce.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Michael Schubert<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: archiv nakladatelstv&iacute; Eminent<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Z\u00edskat titul na st\u00e1tn\u00ed vysok\u00e9 \u0161kole na t\u00e9ma, o n\u011bm\u017e je n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed rozhovor, nen\u00ed obvykl\u00e9. 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