{"id":328316,"date":"2020-03-04T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-03-03T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/dina-sterbova-horolezectvi-neni-jen-zalezitosti-muzskou-ci-zenskou-je-to-zalezitost-lidska\/"},"modified":"2020-03-04T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2020-03-03T23:00:00","slug":"dina-sterbova-horolezectvi-neni-jen-zalezitosti-muzskou-ci-zenskou-je-to-zalezitost-lidska","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/dina-sterbova-horolezectvi-neni-jen-zalezitosti-muzskou-ci-zenskou-je-to-zalezitost-lidska\/","title":{"rendered":"Dina \u0160t\u011brbov\u00e1: \u201eHorolezectv\u00ed nen\u00ed jen z\u00e1le\u017eitost\u00ed mu\u017eskou  \u010di \u017eenskou, je to z\u00e1le\u017eitost lidsk\u00e1.\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Va&scaron;e rodn&eacute; jm&eacute;no je Margita Schochmannov&aacute;. Co ta zm\u011bna?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/>Schochmannov&aacute; bylo moje p\u0159&iacute;jmen&iacute; za svobodna, Dina zase p\u0159ezd&iacute;vka, kterou mn\u011b \u0159&iacute;kali moji rodi\u010de od d\u011btstv&iacute;. Tak\u017ee na Margitu jsem si nezvykla, ale je to moje k\u0159estn&iacute; jm&eacute;no.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Jak se matemati\u010dka dostala k horolezectv&iacute;?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/>Matematika a horolezectv&iacute; se nevylu\u010duje. Oboje jsem obdivovala od d\u011btstv&iacute; a zdaleka nejsem sama. Velehorsk&eacute; prost\u0159ed&iacute; je povzn&aacute;&scaron;ej&iacute;c&iacute; a m&aacute; (alespo\u0148 pro m\u011b) ohromn&yacute; duchovn&iacute; n&aacute;boj. Matematika takt&eacute;\u017e prov&aacute;z&iacute; \u010dlov\u011bka od po\u010d&aacute;tk\u016f civilizace a\u017e k dne&scaron;n&iacute;mu &uacute;\u017easn&eacute;mu v\u011bdeck&eacute;mu obrazu sv\u011bta, kter&yacute; by bez n&iacute; nemohl existovat. Lze v n&iacute; spat\u0159ovat&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">i velice abstraktn&iacute; poezii, plnou elegance, a\u010d mnoho lid&iacute; nebude se mnou souhlasit, proto\u017ee jej&iacute; opravdov&eacute; pochopen&iacute; vy\u017eaduje velkou du&scaron;evn&iacute; n&aacute;mahu. <br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Na sv&eacute;m kont\u011b m&aacute;te dv\u011b zdolan&eacute; osmitis&iacute;covky. M&aacute;te je&scaron;t\u011b v pam\u011bti ten prvn&iacute; v&yacute;stup?<\/strong> <br \/>Na ten nemohu nikdy zapomenout. Byl to spln\u011bn&yacute; sen po mnohalet&eacute;m &uacute;sil&iacute;. Jsem za n\u011bj st&aacute;le vd\u011b\u010dn&aacute;.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>&Uacute;dajn\u011b jste kv\u016fli realizaci expedice vlastno\u2011 ru\u010dn\u011b &scaron;ila spac&aacute;ky, kter&eacute; jste pak tajn\u011b prod&aacute;vala do zahrani\u010d&iacute;&hellip;<\/strong> <br \/>Za komunismu jsme nem\u011bli &scaron;anci si vyd\u011blat prac&iacute; na univerzit\u011b pen&iacute;ze na lezen&iacute; \u010di cestov&aacute;n&iacute;. Nav&iacute;c v obchodech nebyly k m&aacute;n&iacute; po\u0159&aacute;dn&eacute; spac&iacute; pytle, ale ani jin&eacute; pot\u0159ebn&eacute; \u010d&aacute;sti v&yacute;zbroje a v&yacute;stroje. A proto si je horolezci vyr&aacute;b\u011bli sami, v\u010detn\u011b p&eacute;\u0159ov&eacute;ho oble\u010den&iacute;, skob a mnoha dal&scaron;&iacute;ch v\u011bc&iacute;. A takov&yacute; spac&iacute; pytel napln\u011bn&yacute; poctiv&yacute;m \u010desk&yacute;m prachov&yacute;m pe\u0159&iacute;m ocenili&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">i horolezci v zahrani\u010d&iacute;, tak\u017ee se to dalo <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">i prodat. Do Nep&aacute;lu jsem v roce 1984 vezla <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">20 spac&iacute;ch pytl\u016f a t&iacute;m jsem si zaplatila expedi\u010dn&iacute; n&aacute;klady. Krom\u011b bot jsem si tak&eacute; vyrobila v&scaron;echno o&scaron;acen&iacute;, kter&eacute; jsem na sob\u011b m\u011bla p\u0159i v&yacute;stupu.<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>K va&scaron;&iacute; knize jste sb&iacute;rala materi&aacute;ly 15 let, co\u017e je pom\u011brn\u011b dlouh&aacute; doba&hellip;<\/strong> <br \/>L&eacute;pe jsem to neum\u011bla. Za\u010dala jsem v dob\u011b, kdy se pomalu rodil internet, ale p\u0159edt&iacute;m jsem musela ps&aacute;t dopisy a tak roz&scaron;i\u0159ovat informace. Z&aacute;kladn&iacute; materi&aacute;l jsem z&iacute;skala z \u010dasopisu, vlastn\u011b ro\u010denek Himalayan Yournalu, kter&yacute; vyd&aacute;v&aacute; Horolezeck&yacute; svaz Indie. Postupn\u011b jsem na to navazovala, z&iacute;sk&aacute;vala adresy, psala dopisy i e-maily. Celkov&yacute; vy\u010derp&aacute;vaj&iacute;c&iacute; v&yacute;\u010det by byl velmi &uacute;navn&yacute; a ani si to v&scaron;echno nem\u016f\u017eu pamatovat. Mnoh&eacute; z akt&eacute;rek jsem poznala osobn\u011b, proto\u017ee jsem byla aktivn&iacute; ve stejnou dobu jako ony. Nejv&iacute;ce \u017eensk&yacute;ch prvov&yacute;stup\u016f na osmitis&iacute;covky se toti\u017e odehr&aacute;lo, v\u010detn\u011b toho na&scaron;eho, v osmdes&aacute;t&yacute;ch letech minul&eacute;ho stolet&iacute;. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/><strong><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 290px; float: left; margin: 10px;\" src=\"\/content\/images\/uploaded\/dina &scaron;.png\" width=\"NaN\" height=\"auto\" alt=\"\" title=\"\">Co v&scaron;echno kniha \u010dten&aacute;\u0159i nab&iacute;dne?<\/strong> <br \/>To \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 pozn&aacute;, kdy\u017e si ji p\u0159e\u010dte. M&yacute;m c&iacute;lem bylo vy\u010derp&aacute;vaj&iacute;c&iacute;m zp\u016fsobem zpracovat historii \u017eensk&yacute;ch prvov&yacute;stup\u016f na 14 osmitis&iacute;cov&yacute;ch masiv\u016f na&scaron;&iacute; planety, ale nem\u011bla to b&yacute;t pouze jak&aacute;si statistika \u010di seznam. Cht\u011bla jsem uk&aacute;zat, \u017ee i ve sportu, tradi\u010dn\u011b pova\u017eovan&eacute;m za mu\u017eskou z&aacute;le\u017eitost, se \u017eeny dovedou d\u016fstojn\u011b uplatnit. Proto\u017ee horolezectv&iacute; nen&iacute; jen z&aacute;le\u017eitost&iacute; mu\u017eskou \u010di \u017eenskou, je to z&aacute;le\u017eitost lidsk&aacute;. Tak&eacute; bych si p\u0159&aacute;la, aby moje kniha dodala \u017een&aacute;m odvahu a rozhodnost j&iacute;t za sv&yacute;m snem. Proto\u017ee, jak p&iacute;&scaron;e Coelho v Alchymistovi: &bdquo;Sen je \u0159e\u010d&iacute;, kterou s n&aacute;mi mluv&iacute; B\u016fh.&#8220;<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Pr&yacute; pracujete na dal&scaron;&iacute; knize?<\/strong> <br \/>Ano, m&aacute;m v tomto sm\u011bru svoje dluhy. R&aacute;da&nbsp;bych napsala knihu o humanit&aacute;rn&iacute;m projektu Czech Hospital, kter&yacute; jsme spolu s Vi\u0165ou Dokoupilem za\u010dali v roce 2006 a kter&yacute; zapo\u010dal letos ji\u017e &scaron;estn&aacute;ct&yacute; rok sv&eacute; existence.<br \/> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>V roce 2006 jste se stala spoluzakladatelkou horsk&eacute; nemocnice Czech Hospital v Him&aacute;laji. Co v&aacute;s k tomu vedlo a jak toto za\u0159&iacute;zen&iacute; funguje?<\/strong> <br \/>Jako d&iacute;t\u011b jsem snila o tom, \u017ee budu l&eacute;ka\u0159kou, ale k tomu jsem nem\u011bla ten spr&aacute;vn&yacute; &bdquo;p\u016fvod&ldquo;. St&aacute;v&aacute; se, \u017ee takov&eacute; sny v \u010dlov\u011bku jaksi latentn\u011b d\u0159&iacute;mou a kdy\u017e se objev&iacute; vhodn&aacute; n&aacute;hoda, probud&iacute; se k \u017eivotu. Tak&eacute; to byl m\u016fj p\u0159&iacute;pad <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">a spou&scaron;t\u011bc&iacute;m katalyz&aacute;torem bylo tragick&eacute; zem\u011bt\u0159esen&iacute; v oblasti p&aacute;kist&aacute;nsk&eacute;ho Him&aacute;laje &#8211; Karakorumu v roce 2005. Zahynulo tam tehdy kolem 80 000 lid&iacute; a bylo zni\u010deno mnoho z toho, co si vybudovali. Tehdy jsme na&scaron;i malou nemocnici do Karakorumu dopravili, pak postavili a od t&eacute; doby ji provozujeme. Postupn\u011b jsme ale vybudovali a pomohli <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">i s mnoha dal&scaron;&iacute;mi v\u011bcmi, kter&eacute; jsou k \u017eivotu pot\u0159ebn&eacute;, jako cesty, mosty, z&aacute;vlahy, vodovody, intern&aacute;t pro d\u011bti a tak podobn\u011b. V&yacute;\u010det v&scaron;eho naleznou z&aacute;jemci na na&scaron;ich str&aacute;nk&aacute;ch www.czechhospital.cz.<br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdy jste byla naposled na n\u011bjak&eacute;m v\u011bt&scaron;&iacute;m horsk&eacute;m v&yacute;&scaron;lapu?<\/strong> <br \/>M&aacute;te asi na mysli horolezeck&yacute; v&yacute;stup, nebo pochod naz&yacute;van&yacute; trek. Moj&iacute; posledn&iacute; expedic&iacute; byl Spantik v roce 2008, ale v dolin\u011b, kde stoj&iacute; na&scaron;e nemocnice, nav&scaron;t\u011bvujeme pastviny v bo\u010dn&iacute;ch &uacute;dol&iacute;ch vysoko nad hlavn&iacute;m ledovcem \u010chogo-Lungma, kter&eacute; jsou \u010dasto velice nep\u0159&iacute;stupn&eacute;.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Kate\u0159ina \u017d&iacute;dkov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: Petr Piechowicz, archiv Diny &Scaron;t\u011brbov&eacute;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dina \u0160t\u011brbov\u00e1 je prvn\u00ed \u017eena na sv\u011bt\u011b, kter\u00e9 se poda\u0159ilo vystoupit spolu s V\u011brou Kom\u00e1rkovou v roce 1984 na horu \u010cO OJU (v p\u0159ekladu Tyrkysov\u00e1 bohyn\u011b). V letech 1964 &#8211; 1992 vyu\u010dovala na UP v Olomouci matematiku, v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b se v\u011bnuje charitativn\u00ed \u010dinnosti.<br \/>\nV knize Touhy a \u00fad\u011bl, kterou vydalo Nakladatelstv\u00ed JOTA, zachycuje osudy prvn\u00edch \u017een na nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00edch vrcholech hor, kdy jejich sny byly \u010dasto vykoupeny nejen slzami a krv\u00ed, ale i cenou nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":328317,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-328316","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/328316","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=328316"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/328316\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/328317"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=328316"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=328316"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=328316"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}