{"id":328180,"date":"2019-10-31T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-10-30T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/nezarazene\/michal-petrov-dziny-pro-me-byly-obsese-uz-v-puberte\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2019-10-30T23:00:00","slug":"michal-petrov-dziny-pro-me-byly-obsese-uz-v-puberte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/michal-petrov-dziny-pro-me-byly-obsese-uz-v-puberte\/","title":{"rendered":"Michal Petrov: \u201eD\u017e\u00edny pro m\u011b  byly obsese   u\u017e v pubert\u011b.\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>D\u017e&iacute;ny maj&iacute; v ka\u017ed&eacute; zemi jin&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh. Jak&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh zachycuje va&scaron;e kniha?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">V t&eacute; kn&iacute;\u017ece jde asi nejv&iacute;c o to, \u017ee maj&iacute; d\u017e&iacute;ny jin&yacute; p\u0159&iacute;b\u011bh na V&yacute;chod\u011b a jin&yacute; na Z&aacute;pad\u011b. I kdy\u017e i tady se daj&iacute; naj&iacute;t sty\u010dn&eacute; body, proto\u017ee i na tom mnohem konzumn\u011bji zam\u011b\u0159en&eacute;m&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Z&aacute;pad\u011b byly leckdy d\u017e&iacute;ny vz&aacute;cnost, i tady se vzpom&iacute;n&aacute; na &bdquo;ty prvn&iacute;&ldquo;, vysn\u011bn&eacute;. P\u0159esto ale dostupnost tohohle zbo\u017e&iacute; v zem&iacute;ch v&yacute;chodn&iacute;ho bloku byla n\u011bkde &uacute;pln\u011b jinde, u\u017e proto, \u017ee tady fungovaly jen m\u011bkk&eacute; m\u011bny a nab&iacute;dka b\u011b\u017en&eacute;ho maloobchodu byla u zbo\u017e&iacute; s n\u011bjakou devizovou n&aacute;ro\u010dnost&iacute; omezen&aacute;. To se vztahovalo i na d\u017e&iacute;ny. A kdy\u017e se ofici&aacute;ln&iacute; nab&iacute;dka nekryla s ofici&aacute;ln&iacute; popt&aacute;vkou, vznikaly r\u016fzn&eacute; varianty neofici&aacute;ln&iacute;ho \u0159e&scaron;en&iacute;, jako nap\u0159&iacute;klad pa&scaron;ov&aacute;n&iacute;, \u010dern&yacute; trh s valutami i zbo\u017e&iacute;m nebo ileg&aacute;ln&iacute; v&yacute;roba napodobenin. A pak tu byly ty sekund&aacute;rn&iacute; m\u011bny, se kter&yacute;mi se platilo ve valutov&yacute;ch obchodech a kter&eacute; bo\u0159ily m&yacute;tus o bezt\u0159&iacute;dn&iacute; spole\u010dnosti. To bylo p\u0159&iacute;zna\u010dn&eacute; pro v&scaron;echny zem\u011b V&yacute;chodu, ale v&scaron;ude se to li&scaron;ilo v&iacute;ce nebo m&eacute;n\u011b podstatn\u011b v z&aacute;vislosti na st&aacute;vaj&iacute;c&iacute;ch pom\u011brech. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Pro\u010d m&aacute; kniha anglick&yacute; n&aacute;zev?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Hlavn\u011b ze dvou d\u016fvod\u016f &ndash; proto\u017ee jsou d\u017e&iacute;ny prost\u011b Amerika a proto\u017ee jde o mezin&aacute;rodn&iacute;&nbsp;fenom&eacute;n. \u017d&aacute;dn&eacute;mu kousku m&oacute;dy se nepovedlo b&yacute;t jednak tak glob&aacute;ln&iacute;m a jednak tak vytrval&yacute;m. A napojit se na dal&scaron;&iacute; oblasti &uacute;pln\u011b mimo fashion. D\u017e&iacute;ny &uacute;zce souvisely s t&iacute;m, jak se mlad&eacute; pov&aacute;le\u010dn&eacute; generace vymezovaly v\u016f\u010di t\u011bm star&scaron;&iacute;m, m\u011bly velmi silnou vazbu ke kultu\u0159e &ndash; p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m k hudb\u011b a k filmu. B\u011bhem jedin&eacute;ho stolet&iacute; se jim povedla fantastick&aacute; metamorf&oacute;za, d&iacute;ky n&iacute;\u017e se p\u0159esunuly z fabrik, dol\u016f a farem a\u017e na m&oacute;dn&iacute; mola. Ale p\u0159edev&scaron;&iacute;m jsou st&aacute;lic&iacute; konfek\u010dn&iacute;ho pr\u016fmyslu, uniformou, kterou dobrovoln\u011b obl&eacute;k&aacute; t&eacute;m\u011b\u0159 ka\u017ed&yacute;. S v&yacute;jimkou Coca-Coly nic tak univerz&aacute;ln&iacute;ho ve sv\u011bt\u011b konzumu neexistuje. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kde v&scaron;ude jste pro knihu sb&iacute;ral materi&aacute;l a jak dlouho jste na n&iacute; pracoval?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Obvykle p&iacute;&scaron;u o v\u011bcech, kter&eacute; jsem osobn\u011b za\u017eil a poznal, proto\u017ee nechci b&yacute;t z&aacute;visl&yacute;&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">jen na interpretac&iacute;ch. I ta ned&aacute;vn&aacute; minulost u\u017e je toti\u017e dnes interpretov&aacute;na a jej&iacute; obraz&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">to k\u0159iv&iacute;. Tak\u017ee t&iacute;m prvn&iacute;m zdrojem je moje vlastn&iacute; pam\u011b\u0165, t&iacute;m sp&iacute;&scaron;, \u017ee d\u017e&iacute;ny pro m\u011b byly&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">obsese u\u017e v pubert\u011b. Pak jsou tu dobov&eacute; materi&aacute;ly, novinov&aacute; sv\u011bdectv&iacute; p\u0159&iacute;m&yacute;ch pozorovatel\u016f d\u011bn&iacute;. Mysl&iacute;m, \u017ee takov&yacute;ch se mi poda\u0159ilo shrom&aacute;\u017edit celkem dost, a ty, kter&eacute; se vztahuj&iacute; k obsahu p\u0159&iacute;mo, najde \u010dten&aacute;\u0159 i v knize ve form\u011b faksimili&iacute;. Cenn&yacute;m zdrojem informac&iacute; jsou i rozhovory s pam\u011btn&iacute;ky a pam\u011btnick&aacute; f&oacute;ra na soci&aacute;ln&iacute;ch s&iacute;t&iacute;ch. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">K t&eacute;matu denimu &ndash; i na b&yacute;val&eacute;m V&yacute;chod\u011b &ndash; vy&scaron;lo n\u011bkolik knih, mysl&iacute;m, \u017ee jsem p\u0159e\u010detl&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">v&scaron;echny. A pak jsou tady vizu&aacute;ly, kde t\u0159eba ty komer\u010dn&iacute; najde \u010dlov\u011bk nejen v \u010dasopisech,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ale i v auk\u010dn&iacute;ch nab&iacute;dk&aacute;ch galeri&iacute; a fotografick&eacute; zase v dokumenta\u010dn&iacute;ch archivn&iacute;ch centrech. U t&eacute;matu souvisej&iacute;c&iacute;ho s m&oacute;dou hraj&iacute; roli i second handy a inzer&aacute;ty. T\u0159eba i z detail\u016f n&aacute;&scaron;ivek lze toti\u017e vy\u010d&iacute;st leccos, nap\u0159&iacute;klad o glob&aacute;ln&iacute;m p\u0159esouv&aacute;n&iacute; v&yacute;roby. Intenzivn&iacute; <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">pr&aacute;ce na zpracov&aacute;n&iacute; v&scaron;ech materi&aacute;l\u016f, kter&eacute; jsem shroma\u017e\u010foval l&eacute;ta, trvala asi rok. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jednou jste \u0159ekl, \u017ee ps&aacute;t knihu je po\u0159&aacute;dn&aacute; d\u0159ina. Plat&iacute; to u v&aacute;s po\u0159&aacute;d, i kdy\u017e u\u017e m&aacute;te za sebou \u010dtvrtou v po\u0159ad&iacute;, nebo u\u017e jde pr&aacute;ce v&iacute;ce od ruky?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Tohle byla docela ur\u010dit\u011b nejpracn\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; z&aacute;le\u017eitost u\u017e kv\u016fli p\u0159esahu. Nev\u011bnuju se jen \u010desk&yacute;m re&aacute;li&iacute;m, ale cel&eacute;mu v&yacute;chodn&iacute;mu bloku. Byla to spousta p\u0159eklad\u016f a tak&eacute; okruh podklad\u016f to velmi roz&scaron;&iacute;\u0159ilo. T\u011bch zpracov&aacute;van&yacute;ch informac&iacute; bylo neporovnateln\u011b v&iacute;c. N\u011bkde jich m&aacute;te obrovskou spoustu, jinde zase men&scaron;&iacute;, a tud&iacute;\u017e i udr\u017eet proporce mezi jednotliv&yacute;mi kapitolami bylo n&aacute;ro\u010dn&eacute;. A proto\u017ee m&aacute;m k tomu psan&iacute; je&scaron;t\u011b regul&eacute;rn&iacute; zam\u011bstn&aacute;n&iacute;, znamenalo to, \u017ee jsem tu kn&iacute;\u017eku d\u011blal o v&iacute;kendech a po noc&iacute;ch, tak\u0159ka denn\u011b mezi ve\u010dern&iacute; dev&aacute;tou a t\u0159et&iacute; r&aacute;no. Ale nerad bych, aby to zn\u011blo jako f\u0148uk&aacute;n&iacute;, ostatn\u011b m\u016f\u017eu b&yacute;t r&aacute;d, \u017ee m\u011b ani tentokr&aacute;t neopustila moje pan&iacute;, a naopak m\u011b znovu podr\u017eela. Tuhle kn&iacute;\u017eku jsem v\u017edycky ud\u011blat cht\u011bl, a te\u010f je kone\u010dn\u011b na sv\u011bt\u011b. A jsem vd\u011b\u010dn&yacute; Nakladatelstv&iacute; Jota, \u017ee o n&iacute; nepochybovalo od sam&eacute;ho po\u010d&aacute;tku.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Pamatujete si je&scaron;t\u011b na sv&eacute; prvn&iacute; d\u017e&iacute;ny? Jak&eacute; jste m\u011bl nejrad\u011bji a kde jste si je kupoval?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Nejrad&scaron;i jsem m\u011bl wranglerky, v\u017edycky jsem je cht\u011bl, ale koupil jsem si je a\u017e v osmadevades&aacute;t&eacute;m, kdy\u017e padla Ze\u010f a j&aacute; si mohl vym\u011bnit v&yacute;chodn&iacute; marky za z&aacute;padn&iacute; v tom snov&eacute;m pom\u011bru 1:1. Po\u0159&iacute;dil jsem je v jednom jeans shopu v z&aacute;padoberl&iacute;nsk&eacute;m Tempelhofu. Moje prvn&iacute; skute\u010dn&eacute; d\u017e&iacute;ny byly wildcatky z Tuzexu za 115 bon\u016f a d\u017e&iacute;nov&aacute; bunda Rifle. Ta p\u0159i&scaron;la, mysl&iacute;m, na 140. Bylo to v prv&aacute;ku na gymplu, v osmdes&aacute;t&eacute;m. Pamatuju se i na svoje prvn&iacute; opravdov&eacute; d\u017e&iacute;ny po\u0159&iacute;zen&eacute; za b\u011b\u017en&eacute; \u010deskoslovensk&eacute;, nikoli tuzexov&eacute; koruny. Byly to italsk&eacute; spitfiry z Pragoimpa. Obecn\u011b m&aacute;m r&aacute;d v&scaron;echny tehdej&scaron;&iacute; d\u017e&iacute;ny, u\u017e jen za to, \u017ee vznikaly vesm\u011bs v podm&iacute;nk&aacute;ch, kter&eacute; byly podle m\u011b mnohem eti\u010dt\u011bj&scaron;&iacute; ne\u017e dnes.&nbsp;Tlak na n&aacute;klady tu sice byl v\u017edycky, ale nem\u011bl tak drastick&eacute; d\u016fsledky. Proto bych r&aacute;d i touhle cestou vyzval lidi, aby se starali o to, jak vznik&aacute; to, co si na sebe obl&eacute;kaj&iacute;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Jak si vysv\u011btlujete tu &bdquo;nesmrtelnost&ldquo; d\u017e&iacute;n\u016f?<\/strong> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Spousta v\u011bc&iacute; minulosti zanikla, d\u017e&iacute;ny ale ne. Ty byly, jsou a vypad&aacute; to, \u017ee je&scaron;t\u011b hodn\u011b&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">dlouho budou sou\u010d&aacute;st&iacute; na&scaron;ich &scaron;atn&iacute;k\u016f&hellip;Skr&yacute;vaj&iacute; v sob\u011b g&eacute;nia. Jinak to vysv\u011btlit nejde. P\u0159i t&eacute; vysok&eacute; gram&aacute;\u017ei, se kterou se staly sv\u011btov&yacute;m fenom&eacute;nem, to p\u0159itom vlastn\u011b b\u016fhv&iacute;jak pohodln&eacute; kalhoty nebyly a jednodu&scaron;e, tou na oko p\u0159&iacute;jemnou modrou barvou, to taky vysv\u011btlit nejde. To by samo o sob\u011b nevysta\u010dilo. I vliv reklamy nebo touha ztoto\u017enit&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">se oble\u010den&iacute;m s idoly pop music nebo filmov&yacute;mi hv\u011bzdami \u010di obl&eacute;ct si n\u011bco alternativn&iacute;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ho maj&iacute; sv&eacute; limity. D\u017e&iacute;ny jsou prost\u011b n\u011bco, co ve sv&eacute; DNA nese gen nesmrtelnosti. A je&scaron;t\u011b&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ho nikdo dokonale nerozk&oacute;doval.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kdysi jste n&aacute;m v rozhovoru prozradil, \u017ee tou\u017e&iacute;te vytvo\u0159it n\u011bjakou webgalerii sv&eacute;ho archivu. Existuje u\u017e n\u011bco takov&eacute;ho?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Po\u0159&aacute;d to v hlav\u011b nos&iacute;m, ale \u010dasu je m&aacute;lo a j&aacute; si \u0159&iacute;k&aacute;m, \u017ee lep&scaron;&iacute; ne\u017e n\u011bco d\u011blat blb\u011b, je&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ned\u011blat to v\u016fbec. Aspo\u0148 zat&iacute;m. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Mo\u017en&aacute; je p\u0159ed\u010dasn&eacute; se pt&aacute;t, ale pracujete u\u017e na dal&scaron;&iacute; knize? Pokud ano, o \u010dem bude?<\/strong><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Tohle je ot&aacute;zka, na kterou ur\u010dit\u011b nejd\u0159&iacute;v odpov&iacute;m sv&eacute;mu nakladateli. A s n&iacute;m jsem to&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">je&scaron;t\u011b neprob&iacute;ral. Nesu si sice v hlav\u011b p&aacute;r n&aacute;pad\u016f, a dokonce v r\u016fzn&yacute;ch \u017e&aacute;nrech, ale&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">te\u010f je tu d\u017e&iacute;nov&eacute; retro jako zat&iacute;m posledn&iacute; kapitola.<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Text: Kate\u0159ina \u017d&iacute;dkov&aacute;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Foto: Karel &Scaron;anda<\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Na sv\u00e9m kont\u011b m\u00e1 Michal Petrov t\u0159i knihy o \u010deskoslovensk\u00e9m retru a do t\u00e9to sb\u00edrky p\u0159id\u00e1v\u00e1 dal\u0161\u00ed. Kniha Jeans Story \u2013 Retro Blue<br \/>\nv\u00e1s provede sv\u011btem d\u017e\u00edn\u016f, fenom\u00e9nem, kter\u00fd ve sv\u00e9 DNA nese gen nesmrtelnosti, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 autor v n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00edm rozhovoru.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":328181,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[21848],"class_list":["post-328180","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-rozhovor","tag-revue"],"acf":{"related_products":null},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/328180","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=328180"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/328180\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/328181"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=328180"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=328180"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=328180"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}