{"id":236532,"date":"2024-11-29T14:31:49","date_gmt":"2024-11-29T13:31:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/?p=236532"},"modified":"2024-11-29T14:31:58","modified_gmt":"2024-11-29T13:31:58","slug":"hana-trestikova-rozhovor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/magazin-luxor\/hana-trestikova-rozhovor\/","title":{"rendered":"Kdy\u017e dcera mluv\u00ed s m\u00e1mou: Rozhovor s Hanou T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkovou"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Jak to vypad\u00e1, kdy\u017e uzn\u00e1van\u00e1 dokumentaristka Helena T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkov\u00e1 nestoj\u00ed za kamerou, ale sama odpov\u00edd\u00e1 na ot\u00e1zky? Kdy\u017e se pt\u00e1 jej\u00ed dcera Hana, vznikne otev\u0159en\u00fd a\u00a0intimn\u00ed rozhovor, ve kter\u00e9m Helena vypr\u00e1v\u00ed o\u00a0sv\u00e9m d\u011btstv\u00ed, o\u00a0profesn\u00edm \u017eivot\u011b i\u00a0o\u00a0hrdinech sv\u00fdch film\u016f. V\u00a0knize Hovory s\u00a0m\u00e1mou<\/a>, <\/em>kter\u00e1 pr\u00e1v\u011b vych\u00e1z\u00ed, \u010dten\u00e1\u0159 dostane ucelenou zpr\u00e1vu o\u00a0jej\u00edm \u017eivot\u011b a\u00a0d\u00edle. O\u00a0tom, jak kniha vznikala, zase pro Magaz\u00edn LUXOR vypr\u00e1v\u00ed dcera Hana.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ne\u017e vznikla kniha, nato\u010dila jste s m\u00e1mou sedmid\u00edln\u00fd podcast. Jak se od sebe li\u0161\u00ed?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Ano, p\u016fvodn\u011b jsme to\u010dily podcast, ale do knihy jsme potom p\u0159idaly \u0159adu up\u0159esn\u011bn\u00ed a detail\u016f. Je v n\u00ed nav\u00edc i to, co v podcastech z\u016fstalo nevy\u0159\u010deno. Nebo jsme n\u011bkter\u00e9 v\u011bci dopov\u011bd\u011bly. Tak\u017ee v knize je toho v\u00edc, je to roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e1 verze. Ur\u010dit\u011b, p\u0159idaly jsme spoustu informac\u00ed. Rozebraly jsme v\u00edc t\u0159eba n\u011bkter\u00e9 momenty ze soukrom\u00e9ho \u017eivota. Na knihu jsme m\u011bly v\u00edc \u010dasu a v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed klid, tak\u017ee to \u0161lo. \u010cten\u00e1\u0159i dostanou ucelenou zpr\u00e1vu o m\u00e1min\u011b profesn\u00edm \u017eivot\u011b, ale tak\u00e9 o na\u0161\u00ed rodin\u011b.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Nab\u00edz\u00ed se ot\u00e1zka, pro\u010d vlastn\u011b z podcastu vznikla kniha?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Proto\u017ee jsem p\u0159edloni najednou m\u011bla v\u00edc \u010dasu vym\u00fd\u0161let bl\u00e1zniv\u00e9 v\u011bci a rozhodla se, \u017ee s m\u00e1mou nato\u010d\u00edm kr\u00e1tk\u00e1 videa na soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b. To byl prvotn\u00ed impuls. Bylo to b\u011bhem v\u00e1no\u010dn\u00edch pr\u00e1zdnin, vy\u0161lo to na sedm dn\u00ed \u010dili ka\u017ed\u00fd den jedno kr\u00e1tk\u00e9 video na nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed t\u00e9mata. Jak slavila V\u00e1noce, co si mysl\u00ed o kr\u00e1se atd. No a m\u011blo to velk\u00fd ohlas, dostala jsem spoustu reakc\u00ed a tak\u00e9 spoustu dotaz\u016f, jestli toho nebude v\u00edc, v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed rozsah nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd dal\u0161\u00ed form\u00e1t. A j\u00e1 si uv\u011bdomila, \u017ee vlastn\u011b pro\u010d ne. A tak v polovin\u011b \u00fanora za\u010dal vznikat podcast. M\u016f\u017eou za to tedy soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b, ale za knihu m\u016f\u017ee fakt, \u017ee se mi ozvalo nakladatelstv\u00ed Euromedia, jestli by z podcastu nemohla vzniknout i kniha.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Zase jste si \u0159ekla, pro\u010d ne?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Ano, p\u0159esn\u011b. Ale \u00fapln\u011b tak jednoduch\u00e9 to nebylo, proto\u017ee nerada zved\u00e1m nezn\u00e1m\u00e1 \u010d\u00edsla, m\u00e1m z toho tro\u0161ku hr\u016fzu. Co\u017e je moje trauma z doby, kdy jsem byla radn\u00ed pro kulturu na pra\u017esk\u00e9m magistr\u00e1tu, proto\u017ee z ka\u017ed\u00e9ho takov\u00e9ho hovoru koukala hrozba nebo probl\u00e9m. V tomhle p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b se to ov\u0161em vyplatilo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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B\u011bhem rozhovoru jste narazily i na m\u00e9n\u011b \u0161\u0165astn\u00e9 chv\u00edle a rodinn\u00e1 traumata. Jak jste s nimi nalo\u017eily?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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V m\u00e1min\u011b \u017eivot\u011b nebylo v\u0161echno zalit\u00e9 sluncem, byly tam slo\u017eit\u00e9 momenty a bylo vid\u011bt, \u017ee si m\u00e1ma b\u011bhem pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed byla jist\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ve chv\u00edl\u00edch, kdy jsme rozeb\u00edraly pr\u00e1ci a profesn\u00ed v\u011bci, ne\u017e kdy\u017e se \u0159e\u010d sto\u010dila na soukrom\u00ed. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b rodinn\u00e1 traumata jsme otev\u0159ely, promluvily si o nich a zase je zav\u0159ely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ur\u010dit\u011b ano, ale na druhou stranu jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee jsem m\u00e1mu vyt\u011b\u017eila dost. \u010cten\u00e1\u0159i se toho dozv\u011bd\u00ed opravdu hodn\u011b, tak\u017ee dal\u0161\u00ed pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed u\u017e by nic dal\u0161\u00edho nep\u0159ineslo. Ale je\u0161t\u011b m\u00e1m t\u00e1tu. A br\u00e1cha je \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00fd fotograf.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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V anotaci p\u00ed\u0161ete, \u017ee jste m\u011bla mo\u017enost zeptat se na v\u0161e, co v\u00e1s jako dceru v\u017edy zaj\u00edmalo, a neb\u00e1la jste se kl\u00e1st ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 se novin\u00e1\u0159i pokl\u00e1dat ost\u00fdchaj\u00ed. Jak\u00e9 to byly?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Jednak jsem v\u011bd\u011bla, na co se pt\u00e1t, proto\u017ee jsem m\u00e1mino soukrom\u00ed znala. Tak\u017ee to m\u011b odli\u0161uje od novin\u00e1\u0159\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b tohle v\u011bd\u011bt nem\u016f\u017eou. Oni se v\u011bt\u0161inou ptaj\u00ed na pracovn\u00ed v\u011bci, na filmy, zat\u00edmco j\u00e1 zn\u00e1m m\u00e1min \u017eivot a mohla jsem se zeptat na v\u011bci, kter\u00e9 mi vrtaly hlavou, jako t\u0159eba jak dok\u00e1zala m\u00edt v osmdes\u00e1t\u00fdch letech dv\u011b mal\u00e9 d\u011bti a z\u00e1rove\u0148 to\u010dit spoustu film\u016f nar\u00e1z nebo jak zvl\u00e1dla pades\u00e1tilet\u00e9 man\u017eelstv\u00ed s t\u00e1tou. To jsou ot\u00e1zky, do kter\u00fdch novin\u00e1\u0159i zabrous\u00ed jen okrajov\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Co v\u00e1m t\u0159eba m\u00e1ma \u0159\u00edkala o letech p\u0159ed listopadovou revoluc\u00ed?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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M\u011b re\u00e1ln\u00fd socialismus jen tak l\u00edznul a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee obecn\u011b m\u00e1me tendenci si d\u011btstv\u00ed balit do nostalgick\u00e9ho h\u00e1vu. Ale beru to jako sv\u00e9ho druhu dar, \u017ee jsem m\u011bla mo\u017enost za\u017e\u00edt dobu nedostatku, \u017ee n\u011bco bylo vz\u00e1cn\u00e9. Kdy\u017e se pak objevila nutella nebo kinder vaj\u00ed\u010dko, tak to byla velk\u00e1 vz\u00e1cnost. Beru jako hodnotu, \u017ee m\u00e1m to srovn\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Vy jste tak\u00e9 filmov\u00e1 re\u017eis\u00e9rka, dal v\u00e1m rozhovor s m\u00e1mou n\u011bjak\u00e9 pracovn\u00ed n\u00e1vody, n\u00e1pady?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Tenhle konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed rozhovor mi sp\u00ed\u0161 dal cenn\u00fd \u010das, kdy jsme si s m\u00e1mou mohly v klidu pov\u00eddat. B\u011b\u017en\u011b \u0159e\u0161\u00edte jen provozn\u00ed v\u011bci, rychle prolet\u00edte, jak se kdo m\u00e1, a tak. Ale my jsme m\u011bly \u010das na strukturovan\u00fd rozhovor a mohly j\u00edt do hloubky. Pokud jde o pracovn\u00ed v\u011bci a r\u016fzn\u00e9 triky, tak ty jsem okoukala u\u017e b\u011bhem dlouh\u00e9 spolupr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Jak jste se na takov\u00fd rozhovor chystala?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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S m\u00e1mou jsme si ud\u011blaly takovou kostru, co jsme v ka\u017ed\u00e9 kapitole cht\u011bly probrat. Je jich sedm, ka\u017ed\u00e1 vych\u00e1z\u00ed zhruba na desetilet\u00ed, proto\u017ee je j\u00ed 75. Ale ob\u010das dostala ot\u00e1zku, kterou ne\u010dekala.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Zm\u011bnilo t\u011bch sedm hodin rozhovor\u016f v\u00e1\u0161 vz\u00e1jemn\u00fd vztah?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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My se m\u00e1me r\u00e1dy, m\u00e1me ho dobr\u00fd, otev\u0159en\u00fd. Ob\u010das sl\u00fdch\u00e1m od kamar\u00e1dek, \u017ee dcery s matkami maj\u00ed komplikovan\u00fd vztah, tak to u n\u00e1s nen\u00ed. Sp\u00ed\u0161 byly momenty, kdy vztah m\u00e1ma\u2013dcera voln\u011b p\u0159ech\u00e1zel do vztahu re\u017eis\u00e9rka\u2013producentka. Proto\u017ee pro ni je pr\u00e1ce kon\u00ed\u010dek, tak pracuje nonstop, ale j\u00e1 jsem zrovna cht\u011bla b\u00fdt jen dcera a u\u017e\u00edt si klidn\u00fd ned\u011bln\u00ed ob\u011bd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A zm\u011bnil se v\u00e1\u0161 pohled na ni jako na \u010dlov\u011bka a tv\u016frkyni?<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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M\u011bla jsem d\u00edky t\u011bm sedmi kapitol\u00e1m poprv\u00e9 mo\u017enost proj\u00edt celou jej\u00ed filmografii a zm\u011bnil se m\u016fj obdiv k tomu, co v\u0161echno stihla. A vysv\u011btlilo mi to i n\u011bkter\u00e9 situace z ml\u00e1d\u00ed, kdy m\u00e1ma hodn\u011b cestovala, byla hodn\u011b zanepr\u00e1zdn\u011bn\u00e1, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 jsem nem\u011bla pocit, \u017ee by byla nep\u0159\u00edtomn\u00e1. Obdivuji, jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem zvl\u00e1dla kombinaci pr\u00e1ce a rodiny. Kdy\u017e se m\u011b n\u011bkdo ptal, jak\u00e9 to bylo vyr\u016fstat s filmovou re\u017eis\u00e9rkou, tak naprosto p\u0159irozen\u00e9, ale j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jak\u00e9 by to bylo vyr\u016fstat t\u0159eba se \u0161vadlenou. A \u017ee hodn\u011b cestovala, jsem brala jako sou\u010d\u00e1st toho v\u0161eho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Filmov\u00e1 producentka, re\u017eis\u00e9rka a komun\u00e1ln\u00ed politi\u010dka. Po letech str\u00e1ven\u00fdch produkc\u00ed reklam, film\u016f a festival\u016f zalo\u017eila svoji produk\u010dn\u00ed spole\u010dnost Produkce T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkov\u00e1, ve kter\u00e9 div\u00e1k\u016fm p\u0159edstavila n\u011bkolik \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00fdch dokument\u016f, jako byli \u0160mejdi, Ob\u010dan K.<\/em> nebo Sbohem d\u011bc\u00e1ku.<\/em> Se svoj\u00ed matkou nato\u010dily filmy o L\u00edd\u011b Baarov\u00e9 Zk\u00e1za kr\u00e1sou,<\/em> portr\u00e9t divadeln\u00edka Jakuba \u0160palka \u017divot s Ka\u0161parem<\/em> nebo portr\u00e9t romsk\u00e9ho aktivisty a hudebn\u00edka Vojta Lavi\u010dka: Nahoru a dol\u016f. <\/em>Sama pak re\u017e\u00edrovala pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00e9ho cyklu Man\u017eelsk\u00e9 etudy: Nov\u00e1 generace.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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HELENA T\u0158E\u0160T\u00cdKOV\u00c1 (* 1949)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Uzn\u00e1van\u00e1 dokumentaristka v \u010cesku i ve sv\u011bt\u011b. Proslavila se p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm tzv. \u010dasosb\u011brnou metodou nat\u00e1\u010den\u00ed, kdy sleduje sv\u00e9ho protagonistu mnoho let. Mezi jej\u00ed p\u0159edn\u00ed filmy pat\u0159\u00ed cyklus Man\u017eelsk\u00e9 etudy<\/em>, portr\u00e9t zlod\u011bje Ren\u00e9ho, p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh narkomanky Katky. Vedle \u010dasosb\u011brn\u00fdch film\u016f nato\u010dila t\u00e9\u017e \u0159adu portr\u00e9t\u016f, nap\u0159\u00edklad Forman vs. Forman<\/em> o Milo\u0161i Formanovi \u010di Zk\u00e1za kr\u00e1sou<\/em> o L\u00edd\u011b Baarov\u00e9. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b chyst\u00e1 dokon\u010den\u00ed \u010dasosb\u011brn\u00e9ho portr\u00e9tu zp\u011bva\u010dky B\u00e1ry Basikov\u00e9. Vyu\u010duje na kated\u0159e dokumentu na pra\u017esk\u00e9 FAMU. \u017dije v Praze se sv\u00fdm man\u017eelem, spisovatelem Michaelem T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkem. M\u00e1 dceru Hanu a syna Tom\u00e1\u0161e.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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O knize Hovory s m\u00e1mou<\/a>:<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

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Helena T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkov\u00e1 vypr\u00e1v\u00ed v otev\u0159en\u00e9m a intimn\u00edm rozhovoru s dcerou Hanou o sv\u00e9m d\u011btstv\u00ed a dosp\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed, profesn\u00edm \u017eivot\u011b i o hrdinech sv\u00fdch dokument\u00e1rn\u00edch film\u016f. V sedmi kapitol\u00e1ch odpov\u00eddaj\u00edc\u00edm v\u017edy p\u0159ibli\u017en\u011b jednomu desetilet\u00ed jej\u00edho \u017eivota se tak mimo jin\u00e9 dozv\u00edd\u00e1me o tom, jak pro\u017e\u00edvala pra\u017esk\u00e9 jaro a pro\u010d nikdy neemigrovala, jak se sezn\u00e1mila se sv\u00fdm mu\u017eem Michaelem T\u0159e\u0161t\u00edkem i o jej\u00edch prvn\u00edch pokusech o \u010dasosb\u011brn\u00fd film. Detailn\u011b se pak v\u011bnuj\u00ed za\u010d\u00e1tk\u016fm slavn\u00fdch film\u016f, jako jsou Man\u017eelsk\u00e9 etudy a Ren\u00e9, ale i nov\u00fdm t\u00e9mat\u016fm let porevolu\u010dn\u00edch. Neopominou tedy ani dal\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdznamn\u00e9 dokumenty, jako je Marcela, Katka, Mallory nebo Soukrom\u00fd vesm\u00edr. Cel\u00fd rozhovor p\u016fvodn\u011b vznikl jako videopodcast z Heleniny pracovny. Hana m\u011bla mo\u017enost zeptat se na v\u0161e, co ji jako dceru v\u017edy zaj\u00edmalo, a neb\u00e1la se kl\u00e1st ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 se novin\u00e1\u0159i pokl\u00e1dat ost\u00fdchaj\u00ed. Kniha tak p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00ed zcela ojedin\u011blou v\u00fdpov\u011b\u010f uzn\u00e1van\u00e9 \u010desk\u00e9 dokumentaristky v\u010detn\u011b mnoha doposud nezve\u0159ejn\u011bn\u00fdch informac\u00ed jak ze soukrom\u00e9ho, tak profesn\u00edho \u017eivota.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Tento rozhovor vy\u0161el v Magaz\u00ednu LUXOR v listopadu 2024, jeho autorem je Ond\u0159ej B\u00edlek.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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