{"id":173191,"date":"2023-11-10T17:38:43","date_gmt":"2023-11-10T16:38:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/?p=173191"},"modified":"2023-11-10T17:38:45","modified_gmt":"2023-11-10T16:38:45","slug":"neal-shusterman-rozhovor-magazin-luxor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/magazin-luxor\/neal-shusterman-rozhovor-magazin-luxor\/","title":{"rendered":"ROZHOVOR s Nealem Shustermanem: \u201eNechci p\u0159edst\u00edrat, \u017ee zn\u00e1m odpov\u011bdi.\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Jak zodpov\u011bdn\u011b p\u0159istupovat k p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016fm, kter\u00e9 vypr\u00e1v\u00edme? Kolik nad\u011bje a kolik ot\u00e1zek do nich vetknout, aby to bylo tak akor\u00e1t? Zni\u010d\u00ed n\u00e1s um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence, nebo osvobod\u00ed? Neal Shusterman, hv\u011bzda dystopick\u00fdch rom\u00e1n\u016f, p\u0159ijel v \u0159\u00edjnu za sv\u00fdmi fanou\u0161ky do Prahy a p\u0159edstavil jim nejen knihu pov\u00eddek Kosen\u00ed. V Praze nebyl poprv\u00e9 a vypad\u00e1 to, \u017ee se objev\u00ed i v n\u011bkter\u00e9 z jeho dal\u0161\u00edch knih. P\u0159e\u010dt\u011bte si rozhovor, kter\u00fd p\u0159i sv\u00e9 n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bv\u011b poskytl Magaz\u00ednu LUXOR!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

V salonku hotelu na Star\u00e9m M\u011bst\u011b zu\u0159iv\u011b blikaj\u00ed blesky fotoapar\u00e1tu, kter\u00e9 p\u0159ebij\u00ed hlasy, cinkot p\u0159\u00edbor\u016f a v\u016fni rann\u00ed k\u00e1vy. Ve sp\u00e1rech fotografa je Neal Shusterman. Sympatick\u00fd chlap\u00edk a \u017ehav\u00e9 zbo\u017e\u00ed Hollywoodu. \u201eSmrtky, Bez citu<\/em> i Bez \u0161ance<\/em>. V\u0161echny se chystaj\u00ed, jen se \u010dek\u00e1 a \u010dek\u00e1, a\u017e se to stane. Jsem opravdu nad\u0161en\u00fd, \u017ee na seri\u00e1lu Smrtka<\/em> se pod\u00edl\u00ed i s\u00e1m Steven Spielberg,\u201d brzd\u00ed velk\u00e1 o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed spisovatel a jen na okraj si posteskne nad st\u00e1vkuj\u00edc\u00edmi filma\u0159i. \u201eBude to je\u0161t\u011b alespo\u0148 rok trvat, ne\u017e se v\u011bci rozjedou.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V rozhovorech \u010dasto zmi\u0148ujete term\u00edn dokonal\u00fd sv\u011bt. Jak by takov\u00fd sv\u011bt vypadal z va\u0161eho pohledu?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nemysl\u00edm si, \u017ee je mo\u017en\u00fd dokonal\u00fd sv\u011bt, proto\u017ee my jsme nedokonal\u00e9 bytosti. Tak\u017ee ve skute\u010dnosti jde o to p\u0159ij\u00edt s dokonal\u00fdm sv\u011btem, ale p\u0159ij\u00edt se sv\u011btem, ve kter\u00e9m dos\u00e1hneme v\u0161ech v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00fdch dos\u00e1hnout chceme. A co se stane, a\u017e se n\u00e1m to poda\u0159\u00ed?\u00a0 Bude sv\u011bt bez v\u00e1lek bez nemoc\u00ed? I to ale bude m\u00edt sv\u00e9 d\u016fsledky. Jak se s nimi vypo\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1me? Pr\u00e1v\u011b to jsem se sna\u017eil popsat v trilogii Smrtek.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A p\u0159i\u0161el jste se sv\u011btem bez p\u0159irozen\u00e9 smrti. Jak v\u00e1s tento koncept napadl?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vy\u0161el jsem z toho, \u017ee z\u00e1klad je pod\u00edvat se, kam chceme jako spole\u010dnost sm\u011b\u0159ovat. Kdy\u017e se d\u00edv\u00e1te na futuristick\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy, jsou v\u011bt\u0161inou v\u0161echny dystopick\u00e9. Jsou o tom, jak se v\u0161echno pokazilo. Tak\u017ee jsem se z\u00e1m\u011brn\u011b pustil do opaku a zkoumal, v co douf\u00e1me \u2013 nap\u0159\u00edklad  s um\u011blou inteligenc\u00ed. M\u00edsto toho, abych se d\u00edval na d\u011bsiv\u00e9 v\u011bci, kter\u00e9 um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence dok\u00e1\u017ee, oto\u010dil jsem to a ptal se, jak\u00e1 by byla nejlep\u0161\u00ed um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence? A pak to sledovat, analyzovat to a zji\u0161\u0165ovat, jak\u00fd by byl sv\u011bt, kdybychom m\u011bli to nejlep\u0161\u00ed z nejlep\u0161\u00edho. A st\u00e1valo se mi, \u017ee \u010d\u00edm v\u00edc jsem b\u00e1dal, t\u00edm v\u00edc m\u011b to vedlo k \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016fm o nesmrtelnosti a o tom, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b te\u010f prob\u00edh\u00e1 spousta v\u00fdzkum\u016f, kter\u00e9 se sna\u017e\u00ed zjistit, jak zastavit proces st\u00e1rnut\u00ed. Kdy\u017e se n\u00e1m to poda\u0159\u00ed \u2013 a j\u00e1 jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00fd, \u017ee se to stane velmi brzo, tak se sv\u011bt zm\u011bn\u00ed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

A co se tedy stane, kdy\u017e najednou budeme m\u00edt mo\u017enost \u017e\u00edt v\u011b\u010dn\u011b?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Existuj\u00ed v\u0161echny dystopick\u00e9 verze. Jen\u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b ty jsem cht\u011bl odsunout stranou a pokusit se vymyslet, jak se s t\u00edm co nejl\u00e9pe vypo\u0159\u00e1dat. Jen\u017ee v\u0161e, co m\u011b napadalo, bylo dystopick\u00e9. Kdo bude rozhodovat o tom, kdo zem\u0159e, kdy\u017e m\u016f\u017eeme \u017e\u00edt v\u011b\u010dn\u011b? Pokud o tom rozhodne vl\u00e1da, je to dystopick\u00e9. Pokud o tom rozhodnou po\u010d\u00edta\u010de, je to dystopie. V dokonal\u00e9m sv\u011bt\u011b by rozhodovali Jediov\u00e9. Tedy jedinci, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou \u010destn\u00ed, v\u00e1\u017een\u00ed a osv\u00edcen\u00ed. Ti by rozhodovali o tom, kdo bude \u017e\u00edt a kdo zem\u0159e\u2026 a tam ten p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh za\u010dal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Vy u\u017e jste to trochu zm\u00ednil, nicm\u00e9n\u011b za\u010d\u00e1tkem leto\u0161n\u00edho roku jsme za\u017eili vlnu z\u00e1jmu o um\u011blou inteligenci, vy s n\u00ed ve sv\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edb\u011bz\u00edch pracujete. Pro\u010d? Co si o n\u00ed mysl\u00edte?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je to d\u017ein, kter\u00e9ho nem\u016f\u017eeme vr\u00e1tit zp\u011bt do lahve. Jakmile je jednou venku, nem\u016f\u017eeme ho zastavit. Mus\u00edme tedy p\u0159ij\u00edt na to, jak ho vyu\u017e\u00edt jako n\u00e1stroj. M\u00e1m p\u0159\u00e1tele, kte\u0159\u00ed mluv\u00ed o tom, \u017ee mus\u00edme zastavit um\u011blou inteligenci. To se nestane, nejsme schopni ji zastavit. Mus\u00edme sp\u00ed\u0161 p\u0159ij\u00edt na to, jak n\u00e1m m\u016f\u017ee slou\u017eit. Proto\u017ee pokud s n\u00ed budeme bojovat, nakonec n\u00e1s nahrad\u00ed. A tak pracuji s Chat GPT a sna\u017e\u00edm se p\u0159ij\u00edt na to, jak ho vyu\u017e\u00edt jako n\u00e1stroj. Pro spisovatele je to velmi u\u017eite\u010dn\u00fd n\u00e1stroj. Sice mi nenap\u00ed\u0161e texty, ale kdy\u017e m\u00e1m n\u011bjak\u00fd blok, m\u016f\u017eu se ho t\u0159eba po\u017e\u00e1dat: Vymysli deset mimozemsk\u00fdch krajin. Pak se na to pod\u00edv\u00e1m a \u0159eknu si, ok, tak tahle je docela zaj\u00edmav\u00e1. Na tom budu stav\u011bt. Tak\u017ee se z toho st\u00e1v\u00e1 zdroj, kter\u00fd pom\u00e1h\u00e1 spisovatel\u016fm. N\u011bkdy to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt zp\u016fsob, jak posunout svou vlastn\u00ed kreativitu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

N\u011bkter\u00e9 z t\u011bchto ChatGPT a dal\u0161\u00edch se u\u010d\u00ed z v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00e9 jim lid\u00e9 p\u00ed\u0161ou.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prvn\u00ed v\u011bc, na kterou jsem se zeptal Chat GPT, kdy\u017e jsem ho za\u010dal pou\u017e\u00edvat, byla, jestli je Nimbus. Opravdu To odpov\u011bd\u011blo. Znalo Nimbus. \u0158eklo, \u017ee Nimbus je fiktivn\u00ed v\u00fdtvor spisovatele Neala Shustermana. A \u017ee nen\u00ed Nimbus, jen program pro modelov\u00e1n\u00ed jazyka. Tak jsem se ho znovu zeptal: Ano, ale kdy\u017e se bude\u0161 d\u00e1l u\u010dit, mohl by ses st\u00e1t Nimbusem? A Ono odpov\u011bd\u011blo: Nejsem v\u011bdom\u00ed, proto bych se nikdy nemohl st\u00e1t Nimbusem. Pokra\u010doval jsem ot\u00e1zkou, jestli se m\u016f\u017ee um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence vyvinout tak, aby se stala Nimbusem? A To \u0159eklo, \u017ee mo\u017en\u00e1. Tak\u017ee v podstat\u011b ano, je to Nimbus. Je to trochu znepokojuj\u00edc\u00ed. Uvid\u00edme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pro\u010d maj\u00ed Va\u0161e dystopie takov\u00fd \u00fasp\u011bch? Jak si to vysv\u011btlujete?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u0161imn\u011bte si, \u017ee \u010d\u00edm se sv\u011bt kolem n\u00e1s st\u00e1v\u00e1 v\u00edce dystopick\u00fdm, t\u00edm je n\u00e1m l\u00e9pe, kdy\u017e m\u016f\u017eeme p\u0159edv\u00eddat, kam by to mohlo doj\u00edt. A tak\u00e9, jak se z toho dostat. Nejsiln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed dystopick\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy jsou ty, kde p\u0159ijdeme na to, jak to zastavit. Hrdinov\u00e9 t\u011bchto p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016f p\u0159ijdou na to, jak n\u00e1s dostat zp\u011bt ze slep\u00e9 uli\u010dky, kam se sv\u011bt dostal. Tak\u017ee v jist\u00e9m smyslu, i kdy\u017e je to znepokojuj\u00edc\u00ed, je to v\u011bt\u0161inou tak\u00e9 velmi uklid\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed. Proto\u017ee to ukazuje cestu ven. Forma se m\u011bnila, ale p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy odjak\u017eiva vysv\u011btlovaly v\u011bci, kter\u00fdm jsme nerozum\u011bli. Proto m\u00e1me legendy a m\u00fdty: Nedok\u00e1\u017eeme pochopit pohyb Slunce? Nu\u017ee, Slunce je po obloze p\u0159ev\u00e1\u017eeno na voze\u2026 A tak si tyto p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy vypr\u00e1v\u00edme, aby n\u00e1m pomohly c\u00edtit se l\u00e9pe a m\u00e9n\u011b se b\u00e1t v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00fdm nerozum\u00edme. A t\u011bch je st\u00e1le spousta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jakou roli podle v\u00e1s hraje literatura v \u017eivot\u011b mlad\u00fdch lid\u00ed? A jak\u00e9 poselstv\u00ed jim chcete sv\u00fdmi p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy p\u0159edat?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy obecn\u011b hraj\u00ed d\u016fle\u017eitou roli. I proto si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je t\u0159eba b\u00fdt velmi obez\u0159etn\u00fd v tom, co se rozhodnu vypr\u00e1v\u011bt a jak. Nerad vypr\u00e1v\u00edm p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy, kter\u00e9 d\u00e1vaj\u00ed v\u0161echny odpov\u011bdi. V\u011bci toti\u017e nejsou v\u017edy tak jednoduch\u00e9, jak vypadaj\u00ed. Na ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 stoj\u00ed za to si kl\u00e1st, nejsou jednoduch\u00e9 odpov\u011bdi. A nechci p\u0159edst\u00edrat, \u017ee odpov\u011bdi zn\u00e1m. R\u00e1d nach\u00e1z\u00edm zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 zp\u016fsoby, jak ot\u00e1zky p\u0159edkl\u00e1dat, nejl\u00e9pe pak takov\u00e9, kter\u00e9 by \u010dten\u00e1\u0159e ani nenapadly. Chci je vyb\u00edzet k p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161len\u00ed, t\u0159eba i proto, aby se dok\u00e1zali l\u00e9pe orientovat v dne\u0161n\u00ed velmi slo\u017eit\u00e9 dob\u011b. A chci jim vypr\u00e1v\u011bt p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy o nad\u011bji. P\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let o v\u011bcech a kl\u00e1st si ot\u00e1zky \u2013 to je poselstv\u00ed, kter\u00e9 r\u00e1d zanech\u00e1v\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Co od v\u00e1s m\u016f\u017eeme o\u010dek\u00e1vat v bl\u00edzk\u00e9 budoucnosti ?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chyst\u00e1m se na dal\u0161\u00ed knihu o Smrtk\u00e1ch, ale vr\u00e1t\u00edm se zp\u011bt, budou to jejich za\u010d\u00e1tky. Velmi m\u011b zaujala my\u0161lenka, co se stalo v okam\u017eiku, kdy se Nimbus probral. A chci tak\u00e9 vypr\u00e1v\u011bt o lidech, kte\u0159\u00ed s touto my\u0161lenkou p\u0159i\u0161li jako prvn\u00ed \u2013 ty prvn\u00ed Smrtky. Jak se setkaly? Jak je napadlo Smrtky zalo\u017eit? Je\u0161t\u011b nem\u00e1m n\u00e1zev, ale bude to p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh o vzniku tohoto sv\u011bta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Jak dlouho u\u017e jste v \u010cesku, l\u00edb\u00ed se v\u00e1m Praha? U\u017e jste tu n\u011bkdy byl?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jsem tu jen na t\u0159i dny, v\u010dera jsem si prohl\u00e9dl m\u011bsto. Byl jsem tu u\u017e d\u0159\u00edv se synem na dovolen\u00e9. Prahu m\u00e1m r\u00e1d a v\u017edycky se sem r\u00e1d vrac\u00edm. Poka\u017ed\u00e9 m\u011b zaujme n\u011bco nov\u00e9ho. D\u00e9\u0161\u0165 a mraky mi nevad\u00ed. Dokonce si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee Praha je kr\u00e1sn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, kdy\u017e pr\u0161\u00ed, ne\u017e kdy\u017e sv\u00edt\u00ed slunce.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Dovedete si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee byste napsal knihu o Praze?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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R\u00e1d zasazuji d\u011bj knih do m\u00edst, kde jsem byl. A jsem si jist\u00fd, \u017ee Praha se do m\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016f jednou dostane.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Rozhovor vy\u0161el v Magaz\u00ednu LUXOR v listopadu 2023. Jeho autorem je \u0160imon K\u00f6ppl.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Neal Shusterman<\/strong> (1962) vyr\u016fstal v newyorsk\u00e9m Bronxu, v \u0161estn\u00e1cti se s rodinou p\u0159est\u011bhoval do Mexico City, kde dokon\u010dil st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kolu. Vysoko\u0161kolsk\u00fd titul z\u00edskal v Kalifornii v oborech psychologie a divadeln\u00ed hry. V 90. letech se pohyboval u filmu, kde psal sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159e, nap\u0159\u00edklad k seri\u00e1lu Hus\u00ed k\u016f\u017ee.<\/em> Nakonec ale vyhr\u00e1la l\u00e1ska k psan\u00ed knih, kter\u00fdch m\u00e1 na kont\u011b u\u017e p\u0159es pades\u00e1t. Je otcem \u010dty\u0159 d\u011bt\u00ed a \u017eije na Florid\u011b v m\u011bst\u011b Jacksonville.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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O novince Kosen\u00ed:<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

P\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy Smrtek pokra\u010duj\u00ed! Neal Shusterman se spole\u010dn\u011b s autory a autorkami Davidem Yoonem, Jarrodem Shustermanem, Sof\u00edou Lapuente, Michaelem H. Paynem, Michelle Knowlden a Joelle Shusterman vrac\u00ed do popul\u00e1rn\u00edho sv\u011bta sv\u00e9 nejslavn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed s\u00e9rie, aby spole\u010dn\u011b nav\u00e1zali tam, kde Zvon skon\u010dil, ale uk\u00e1zali i mnohem v\u00edc. \u010cekaj\u00ed na v\u00e1s nov\u00ed hrdinov\u00e9 i nep\u0159\u00e1tel\u00e9, ale i sta\u0159\u00ed zn\u00e1m\u00ed. Zb\u00fdv\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b mnoho p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016f, kter\u00e9 je pot\u0159eba odvypr\u00e1v\u011bt… <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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