{"id":13704,"date":"2020-05-31T19:27:29","date_gmt":"2020-05-31T17:27:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/?p=13704"},"modified":"2020-05-31T20:27:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-31T18:27:19","slug":"bara-nesvadbova-k-nove-knize-iluze","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxor.cz\/blog\/rozhovor\/bara-nesvadbova-k-nove-knize-iluze\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201eM\u00e1m sice pracovnu, ale p\u00ed\u0161u jako stepfordsk\u00e1 pani\u010dka u kuchy\u0148sk\u00e9ho stolu,\u201c \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 B\u00e1ra Nesvadbov\u00e1 v rozhovoru k nov\u00e9 knize Iluze."},"content":{"rendered":"
Spisovatelka a novin\u00e1\u0159ka B\u00e1ra Nesvadbov\u00e1 vydala sotva p\u0159ed n\u011bkolika dny novou knihu. Rom\u00e1n Iluze vy\u0161el v Ikaru a to\u010d\u00ed se kolem vztah\u016f, l\u00e1sky a proklamovan\u00e9ho i odvol\u00e1van\u00e9ho \u201edo jedn\u00e9 \u0159eky po dvakr\u00e1t nevstoup\u00ed\u0161\u201c. Nepostr\u00e1d\u00e1 ironick\u00fd humor, reflexivn\u00ed vztahov\u00e1n\u00ed se k sob\u011b sama ani vhled do mezilidsk\u00fdch vztah\u016f. Jako audiokniha vych\u00e1z\u00ed Iluze pod zna\u010dkou T\u00e9mbr v pod\u00e1n\u00ed Jany Strykov\u00e9.<\/strong><\/h5>\n


\nT\u00e9matem Iluze<\/a> jsou vztahy. Partnersk\u00e9, milostn\u00e9, p\u0159\u00e1telsk\u00e9, vztah matky a d\u00edt\u011bte. A tak\u00e9 vztahov\u00fd troj\u00faheln\u00edk, nev\u011bra, l\u00e1ska. Je mo\u017en\u00e9 ps\u00e1t o vztaz\u00edch n\u011bco nov\u00e9ho? Je to nevy\u010derpateln\u00e9 t\u00e9ma? Je nov\u00e1 kniha rom\u00e1n, nebo novela?
\n<\/strong>To je o vlastn\u00edm p\u0159\u00edstupu k\u00a0\u017eivotu. \u010clov\u011bk si m\u016f\u017ee \u0159\u00edkat, \u017ee u\u017e toho spoustu za\u017eil a \u017ee ho mo\u017en\u00e1 u\u017e nic nep\u0159ekvap\u00ed. A pak ho m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159ekvapit ka\u017ed\u00fd nov\u00fd den. Jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee v\u0161echno kolem vztah\u016f rozhodn\u011b nebylo pops\u00e1no a \u017ee z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na autorovi, jak vn\u00edm\u00e1 dan\u00fd pro\u017eitek, z\u00e1\u017eitek, situaci. Jinak nejsem \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd d\u00e1v\u00e1 definice. P\u016fvodn\u011b jsem si myslela, \u017ee to bude takov\u00e1 del\u0161\u00ed pov\u00eddka, ale najednou se z\u00a0toho stal rom\u00e1n.<\/p>\n

P\u0159\u00edb\u011bh ub\u00edh\u00e1 svi\u017en\u011b, m\u00e1 jasnou z\u00e1pletku. Vyprav\u011b\u010dka p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu, Karla, zam\u011b\u0159uje svoji pozornost na vlastn\u00ed city, my\u0161lenky a pro\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed, nach\u00e1z\u00ed a sna\u017e\u00ed se \u0159e\u0161it nelehk\u00e1 vnit\u0159n\u00ed dilemata – hlava vs. srdce, s\u00edla vs. slabost nebo t\u0159eba m\u00edt r\u00e1d svobodn\u011b vs. vlastnit druh\u00e9ho. Jsou pro v\u00e1s tyto ot\u00e1zky v\u00a0knize st\u011b\u017eejn\u00ed?
\n<\/strong>Pro m\u011b jsou tyhle ot\u00e1zky posledn\u00ed dobou \u00fast\u0159edn\u00edm t\u00e9matem \u017eivota. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee motorem dosp\u011bl\u00e9ho \u017eivota je p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let a kl\u00e1st si ot\u00e1zky. Jen skrze nov\u00e9 pro\u017eitky a pozn\u00e1n\u00ed m\u016f\u017eeme nal\u00e9zt cestu, kter\u00e1 je n\u00e1m ur\u010den\u00e1. Jsem si jista, \u017ee kdybychom se neptali, byl by n\u00e1\u0161 \u017eivot ploch\u00fd.<\/p>\n

Jak se stav\u011bt k\u00a0ot\u00e1zk\u00e1m, na kter\u00e9 nelze naj\u00edt jednoduchou odpov\u011b\u010f?
\n<\/strong>Pro m\u011b osobn\u011b maj\u00ed tyto ot\u00e1zky jasnou validitu, m\u00e1 smysl se na n\u011b pt\u00e1t. Mn\u011b se nest\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee nenach\u00e1z\u00edm odpov\u011bdi, v\u017edycky se k\u00a0n\u011bjak\u00e9 dostanu. \u010casto se mi ale st\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee tu odpov\u011b\u010f m\u00e1m r\u00e1no jinou ne\u017e ve\u010der. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

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Postava Karly s\u00a0v\u00e1mi u\u017e n\u011bjak\u00fd \u010das je. Objevuje se i v\u00a0jin\u00fdch va\u0161ich knih\u00e1ch. Jak\u00fd m\u00e1te ke Karle vztah?
\n<\/strong>Ambivalentn\u00ed. Velice \u010dasto se j\u00ed chci zbavit. I u t\u00e9hle knihy jsem si \u0159\u00edkala, \u017ee hrdinou bude n\u011bkdo jin\u00fd. Mo\u017en\u00e1 z\u00a0n\u00ed nakonec z\u016fstalo jen to jm\u00e9no. Pravda ale je, \u017ee Karla nen\u00ed v\u00a0ka\u017ed\u00e9 m\u00e9 knize stejn\u00e1, je odli\u0161n\u00e1, nem\u016f\u017eeme ji vn\u00edmat jako jednu osobu.<\/p>\n

Prozrad\u00edte n\u00e1m, zda m\u00e1 Karla n\u011bco z\u00a0v\u00e1s samotn\u00e9? Souzn\u00edte spolu v\u00a0n\u011b\u010dem?
\n<\/strong>J\u00e1 jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee autor p\u00ed\u0161e ze sebe, ale to neznamen\u00e1, \u017ee p\u00ed\u0161e o sob\u011b. Autorovy knihy nejsou den\u00edkov\u00e9 z\u00e1pisky. Na druhou stranu se ale nez\u0159\u00edk\u00e1m toho, \u017ee spousta my\u0161lenek, n\u00e1zor\u016f nebo p\u0159irovn\u00e1n\u00ed je z\u00a0m\u00e9 du\u0161e, z\u00a0m\u00e9ho srdce, \u017ee je to kus m\u011b. To najdete v\u00a0knize ka\u017ed\u00e9ho autora. I podle toho \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i poznaj\u00ed, jak\u00e9 knihy maj\u00ed r\u00e1di a jak\u00fdm se vyh\u00fdbaj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Kniha se jmenuje Iluze. Je to Iluze jedna, nebo je jich v\u00edc?
\n<\/strong>To mne vlastn\u011b ani nenapadlo. D\u011bkuju! Iluze ale vlastn\u011b jsou v\u00a0mno\u017en\u00e9m \u010d\u00edsle, proto\u017ee ta kniha obsahuje iluze mu\u017esk\u00e9ho hrdiny i iluze \u017eeny, kter\u00e1 cel\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh vypr\u00e1v\u00ed. V\u00a0t\u00e9 knize je i spousta m\u00fdch vlastn\u00edch iluz\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee se z\u00a0rom\u00e1n\u016f a p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh\u016f m\u016f\u017eeme u\u010dit? Pro\u017e\u00edv\u00e1me, co v\u00a0jednom \u017eivot\u011b nestihneme\u2026
\n<\/strong>To je kouzlo knih. Bud\u00ed fantazii. Pro m\u011b je \u010das s\u00a0knihou asi nejcenn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, kdy\u017e pominu \u010das str\u00e1ven\u00fd s\u00a0dcerou nebo bl\u00edzk\u00fdmi lidmi. \u010cten\u00ed je pro m\u011b nejkouzeln\u011bj\u0161\u00edm \u010dasem volna, kter\u00fd m\u016f\u017eu m\u00edt.<\/p>\n

V\u00a0Iluz\u00edch najdeme barvit\u011b popsan\u00e9 sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed sc\u00e9ny i my\u0161lenky intelektu\u00e1l\u016f \u2013 Erich Fromm, Bruce Lipton, Zygmunt Bauman. Ne ka\u017ed\u00fd by to asi \u010dekal. Je to tak c\u00edlen\u011b, nebo se to tam prost\u011b ocit\u00e1, kdy\u017e p\u00ed\u0161ete?
\n<\/strong>Neum\u00edm s\u00a0psan\u00edm moc kalkulovat. Pro m\u011b je psan\u00ed l\u00e1ska. P\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00edm, jak\u00e9 maj\u00ed moje postavy b\u00fdt a co t\u00edm p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhem chci sd\u011blit. Neanalyzuji ka\u017edou jednu v\u011btu.<\/p>\n

M\u00e1te n\u011bjak\u00e9 ritu\u00e1ly, zvyky spojen\u00e9 s psan\u00edm? T\u0159eba kde p\u00ed\u0161ete, v\u00a0jakou denn\u00ed dobu, zda p\u00ed\u0161ete pravideln\u011b a mus\u00edte m\u00edt re\u017eim, nebo z\u00a0v\u00e1s prost\u011b najednou vypluje cel\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh?
\n<\/strong>P\u0159i psan\u00ed asi ne. M\u00e1m sice pracovnu, proto\u017ee jsem cht\u011bla m\u00edt m\u00edstnost pro sebe, vlastn\u00ed pokoj \ud83d\ude42 (odkazuje na esej Virginie Woolfov\u00e9), ale p\u00ed\u0161u jako stepfordsk\u00e1 pani\u010dka v\u00a0kuchyni u kuchy\u0148sk\u00e9ho stolu. Kdy\u017e p\u00ed\u0161u novin\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 texty, tak p\u00ed\u0161u do po\u010d\u00edta\u010de. Kdy\u017e ale p\u00ed\u0161u kn\u00ed\u017eku, p\u00ed\u0161u rukou. M\u00e1m pak mozol. A kdy\u017e mi redaktor po\u0161le p\u0159ipom\u00ednky, tak si k\u00a0tomu v\u011bt\u0161inou zap\u00e1l\u00edm, abych to p\u0159e\u017eila.<\/p>\n

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V\u00a0p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu Karly se objevuje t\u00e9ma svobodn\u00e9 matky. Je nar\u00e1z m\u00e1ma i t\u00e1ta. M\u00e1ma jako stroj, kter\u00fd usiluje jen o to naplnit pot\u0159eby d\u00edt\u011bte. P\u00ed\u0161ete, \u017ee \u201evlastn\u00ed rodi\u010dovstv\u00ed je nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed \u0161kola \u017eivota“. Je to tak i pro v\u00e1s?
\n<\/strong>N\u011bkdy m\u00edv\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee na\u0161e d\u011bti jsou na\u0161imi rodi\u010di, \u017ee n\u00e1s vlastn\u011b u\u010d\u00ed. Co\u017e je kr\u00e1sn\u00e9, mo\u017en\u00e1 by to pak d\u00e1valo smyslu tomu, kdy\u017e se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee ony si n\u00e1s vlastn\u011b vybraly. Pro n\u011bkoho m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt rodi\u010dovstv\u00ed jenom dal\u0161\u00ed rol\u00ed v \u017eivot\u011b, pro m\u011b osobn\u011b je to jedna z\u00a0nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00edch sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed m\u00e9ho \u017eivota, obrovsk\u00e1 \u0161kola.<\/p>\n

Zapsala jsem si jednu v\u011btu, kter\u00e1 mne v\u00a0textu oslovila: \u201eNadu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1me rozumu a ztr\u00e1c\u00edme v\u00edru.\u201c Je to pro v\u00e1s syndrom dne\u0161n\u00ed doby?
\n<\/strong>Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se, \u017ee ano. Velice \u010dasto nadu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1me rozumu. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee lid\u00e9 se m\u00e1lo d\u00edvaj\u00ed do sv\u00e9ho nitra, proto\u017ee tou nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed cestou v\u00a0lidsk\u00e9m \u017eivot\u011b je poznat s\u00e1m sebe.<\/p>\n

Pou\u017eila jste tak\u00e9 kr\u00e1sn\u00fd v\u00fdraz \u201eobr\u00e1tit vlastn\u00ed \u017eivot v\u00a0romantick\u00fd film\u201c. Opravdu to d\u011bl\u00e1me?
\n<\/strong>V\u017edy\u0165 to d\u00e1 rozum, kdo by necht\u011bl happy ending! Bal\u00f3nky a v\u0161echno to kolem! L\u00e1ska nebesk\u00e1 a Pretty Woman! Ale mn\u011b se to moc neda\u0159\u00ed. A n\u011bkdy se to neda\u0159\u00ed ani v\u00a0knih\u00e1ch. I kdy\u017e to t\u011bm postav\u00e1m tak moc p\u0159eji\u2026<\/p>\n

Konec Iluze je otev\u0159en\u00fd (nebudeme prozrazovat). Nech\u00e1v\u00e1 pracovat na\u0161\u00ed fantazii. Bylo va\u0161\u00edm \u00famyslem nechat \u010dten\u00e1\u0159e domyslet si sv\u016fj vlastn\u00ed konec?
\n<\/strong>Nevn\u00edm\u00e1m ho jako otev\u0159en\u00fd. Ale \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, \u017ee je. Tak asi se m\u00fdl\u00edm. \ud83d\ude42 Nicm\u00e9n\u011b, to je jak s t\u011bmi odpov\u011b\u010fmi na kruci\u00e9ln\u00ed ot\u00e1zky. R\u00e1no jsem hrdin\u016fm p\u0159\u00e1la sest\u011bhov\u00e1n\u00ed a napln\u011bn\u00ed jejich nekone\u010dn\u00e9 l\u00e1sky a u\u017e ten sam\u00fd den ve\u010der jsem jim pro zm\u011bnu p\u0159\u00e1la hezk\u00fd rozchod. Tak\u017ee sama moc nev\u00edm\u2026<\/p>\n

Poda\u0159\u00ed se Karle n\u011bjak\u00e1 ta sv\u00e1 vnit\u0159n\u00ed dilemata vy\u0159e\u0161it?
\n<\/strong>Sna\u017eila jsem se popsat, \u017ee a\u010d je to jakkoliv nesnadn\u00e9, u\u010d\u00ed se \u017e\u00edt konkr\u00e9tn\u00edm okam\u017eikem. U\u010d\u00ed se vd\u011b\u010dnosti za ryz\u00ed cit. U\u010d\u00ed se nic neo\u010dek\u00e1vat. Jsme vychov\u00e1ny, alespo\u0148 moje generace, zcela jinak. Nau\u010deny v\u011b\u0159it v konkr\u00e9tno, hmatatelno, neust\u00e1le pl\u00e1novat.<\/p>\n

Fotografie, kter\u00e9 knihu doprov\u00e1z\u00ed, nafotila Pavl\u00edna Saudkov\u00e1. Pro\u010d jste zvolily pr\u00e1v\u011b takov\u00fd form\u00e1t? Jak rezonuj\u00ed s\u00a0textem knihy? Jak dopl\u0148uj\u00ed p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh?
\n<\/strong>Pracovala jsem na tom se t\u0159emi \u017eenami, kter\u00e9 m\u00e1m ze srdce r\u00e1da. J\u00e1 si obecn\u011b moc v\u00e1\u017e\u00edm \u017eensk\u00fdch p\u0159\u00e1telstv\u00ed. Fotografie p\u0159ipravila Pavl\u00edna Saudkov\u00e1, objekt fotografi\u00ed je nesm\u00edrn\u011b kouzeln\u00e1 \u017eena, kterou nebudu jmenovat, a za grafickou podobou stoj\u00ed Maru\u0161ka \u0160trumfov\u00e1. M\u011b samotnou ani nenapadlo m\u00edt v knize fotky, poprosila jsem Ivu Sk\u0159iv\u00e1nkovou, aby ud\u011blala ilustrace. Iva se pono\u0159ila do p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu knihy a \u0159ekla, \u017ee si na to netrouf\u00e1, \u017ee to t\u00e9ma je t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 a \u017ee pro n\u011bj c\u00edt\u00ed n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho, ne\u017e je konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed ilustrace. A tak vznikly fotografie. I ty ale za sebou maj\u00ed dlouhou cestu. Nap\u0159ed se fotilo, fotky se pak r\u016fzn\u011b rastrovaly a filtrovaly. Ty v\u00fdsledn\u00e9 maj\u00ed s\u00a0tou p\u016fvodn\u00ed podobou m\u00e1lo spole\u010dn\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n

Krom\u011b psan\u00ed jste velmi zn\u00e1m\u00e1 sv\u00fdmi charitativn\u00edmi projekty. Be Charity u\u017e m\u00e1 za sebou mnoho akc\u00ed. Na \u010dem te\u010f pracujete nebo co chyst\u00e1te? Kde se m\u016f\u017eeme zapojit?
\n<\/strong>Pl\u00e1nujeme koncert s Adamem Plachetkou a na\u0161\u00edm v\u011brn\u00fdm pomocn\u00edkem Ivo Kah\u00e1nkem. Tak\u00e9 u\u017e se chyst\u00e1 druh\u00fd ro\u010dn\u00edk Souboje hodnot a P\u0159ed\u010d\u00edta\u010de. Tam bude ka\u017ed\u00fd, kdo m\u00e1 r\u00e1d knihy, v\u00edc ne\u017e v\u00edt\u00e1n. V z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed n\u00e1s \u010dek\u00e1 na\u0161e pravideln\u00e1 \u201ehadr\u00e1rna\u201d na \u017dof\u00edn\u011b, tak u\u017e te\u010f sb\u00edr\u00e1me v\u011bci. D\u00e1l budeme m\u00edt po vzoru Oxfamu malink\u00fd obch\u016fdek na B\u011blohorsk\u00e9, takov\u00fd \u201eluxusn\u00ed sek\u00e1\u010d\u201d. Tam uv\u00edt\u00e1me oble\u010den\u00ed, kter\u00e9 nenos\u00edte, nebo ze kter\u00e9ho u\u017e jste vyrostli. P\u0159in\u00e9st je m\u016f\u017eete i do na\u0161\u00ed kav\u00e1rni\u010dky Mezi \u0159\u00e1dky na Sm\u00edchov\u011b. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edm plusem na\u0161eho fondu je, \u017ee sto procent vybran\u00fdch pen\u011bz p\u0159erozd\u011bl\u00edme. Tak\u017ee ka\u017edi\u010dk\u00e1 koruna za vstupenku \u010di tri\u010dko pom\u016f\u017ee handicapovan\u00fdm d\u011btem.<\/p>\n

Rozhovor vedla: Ivana Oberhofnerov\u00e1<\/p>\n

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